"Assault weapons" ban

https://www.statebillinfo.com/bills/...4a_1292_01.pdf

Note this doesn?t come from the state legislature website and I do not believe it has been introduced as of yet.

"A person in violation of the prohibitions will be assessed a first-time penalty of $250,000 and $500,000 for each subsequent violation."

Seems reasonable.

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Sorry folks .... I went to fix the thread title (replaced ? with " and in force of habit I closed the thread.

Problem fixed...post on.

The bill has now been introduced and the full text is here https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/defau...4a_1292_01.pdf didn't check to see if the first one I posted is any different than the "official" one.

Note that it grandfathers current "assault weapons" (no word on what happens to them when you die) but outright bans possession (whether you own one before the ban or not) of "RAPID-FIRE TRIGGER ACTIVATORS"

Looks like it's time to gift my grandkids (8 and 6) their first AR's.

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Looks like it's time to gift my grandkids (8 and 6) their first AR's.

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Gun trust can get it even further (Hypothetically) and let them "inherit" yours even despite this.

Note that it also includes 50BMG rifles. Last year I believe even included the (50 bmg) Ammo in that.

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Looks like it's time to gift my grandkids (8 and 6) their first AR's.

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I’m not trying to argue. Is it possible to gift a firearm to a person under 18?

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I’m not trying to argue. Is it possible to gift a firearm to a person under 18?

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Yes it is. However, one has to follow laws for them to be in possession of it with an "adult" / guardian on site

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Yes it is. However, one has to follow laws for them to be in possession of it with an "adult" / guardian on site

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Thanks for educating me n

I read this bill and the similar one from last year.

https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb23-1230

Same Elisabeth Epps on both.

They cleaned up a lot of the language. Changed flash suppressor to muzzle brake. And of course added the fines.

Unlikely to pass. Yet another bill to show how much the left cares about the children.

Since this came from Epps I must be missing something in the language. Maybe someone can show me where it is.

There must be an exception for Palestinians and Antisemites in this bill?

https://www.coloradopolitics.com/leg...b5c2e639b.html

This state is fully lost. Were trying our hardest to stay here 3 more years till my youngest son graduates but Im not sure were going to be able to make it. Fucking sucks how colorado has gone down hill so fast. I see this assault weapons ban passing for sure this year with little to no opposition.

The Colorado legislature has become the clown show of the country. Even for far left, anti-gun types the emotional, non-sensical rhetoric in this bill is pretty damned impressive.

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I see this assault weapons ban passing for sure this year with little to no opposition.

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Not in it's current form. It is too sweeping and punitive. It is merely posturing.

If the bill were rewritten, which it likely will be, it would be much more likely to pass.

Remember, Polis is running for President. He wouldn't want signing this bill into law on his record.

I'm not so confident this go around. Last time they pushed it too late in the legislative session. That is a significant reason why the last version was a non-issue.
This is earlier, and has mentioned, cleans up some issues (such as banning certain types of ammo in the last iteration).

If it gets passed by the legislature and lands on Polis' desk, what is his presidential outlook if he refuses to sign it, and then 2 months later, a man who mutilated his genitals shoots up another location?

Polis isn't going to be selling himself to the conservative party in any future hypothetical election...

Also for the record, it is very common to have amendments/corrections to a bill throughout the process. They might edit the punitive provisions to get it passed.

I don't suggest the sky is falling, only that anyone in Colorado should be operating as if this kind of bill is going to eventually pass. This year, next year, inside of the next five years, highly likely.

Don't try to figure out how to buy guns for young children. Setup a gun trust instead.

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I'm not so confident this go around. Last time they pushed it too late in the legislative session. That is a significant reason why the last version was a non-issue.
This is earlier, and has mentioned, cleans up some issues (such as banning certain types of ammo in the last iteration).

If it gets passed by the legislature and lands on Polis' desk, what is his presidential outlook if he refuses to sign it, and then 2 months later, a man who mutilated his genitals shoots up another location?

Polis isn't going to be selling himself to the conservative party in any future hypothetical election...

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Well most MSM isn’t saying that the “woman” who shot up lakewood church was a man..

One of the really troubling parts this bill makes it illegal to “offer for sale”

I always make the statement, “it’s not for sale, but for enough money everything is for sale” (which is true)

Imagine the AG having their employees UC (or cops) at gun ranges….

“Hey, that is a nice rifle.. wanna sell it”?

My smart ass answer “No, but everything for sale for enough money”. Boom violation of criminal code. And a $250k civil penalty.

And how does a $250k (and then $500k) make it into a criminal statute ?

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Polis isn't going to be selling himself to the conservative party in any future hypothetical election...

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The extremes do not decide elections, the middle does. If he appears to govern middle left, his chances of winning are much greater than if he takes a far left stance.

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Well most MSM isn?t saying that the ?woman? who shot up lakewood church was a man..

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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...shooter-had-h/
https://www.advocate.com/news/false-...-texas-shooter

Commander Christopher Hassig of the Houston Police Department Homicide Division said the woman used male aliases in the past, including Jeffrey Escalante, but was female.
Finner later clarified, "It's the biological mother," referring to the critically injured 7-year-old boy who was shot in the head.

I can't find anything that disputes the killer was not a woman, other than internet speculation put forth to fit narratives.

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Not in it's current form. It is too sweeping and punitive. It is merely posturing.

If the bill were rewritten, which it likely will be, it would be much more likely to pass.

Remember, Polis is running for President. He wouldn't want signing this bill into law on his record.

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Originally Posted by FoxtArt

I'm not so confident this go around. Last time they pushed it too late in the legislative session. That is a significant reason why the last version was a non-issue.
This is earlier, and has mentioned, cleans up some issues (such as banning certain types of ammo in the last iteration).

If it gets passed by the legislature and lands on Polis' desk, what is his presidential outlook if he refuses to sign it, and then 2 months later, a man who mutilated his genitals shoots up another location?

Polis isn't going to be selling himself to the conservative party in any future hypothetical election...

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Polis probably knows that AWB are losers- especially as the courts are going to (hopefully) clean up this year with the AWB cases that are on their doorstep. But what he doesn’t really want it a ‘mess’, so if you want Polis to kill this, he has to get it done before it reaches his desk. That means making noise and letting Polis know that we are going to make the process ugly for him poltically.

I can’t believe that I’m thinking about giving money to RMGO after Dudley was such a douche, but he may be they perfect a-hole for this.

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The extremes do not decide elections, the middle does. If he appears to govern middle left, his chances of winning are much greater than if he takes a far left stance.



https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...shooter-had-h/
https://www.advocate.com/news/false-...-texas-shooter

Commander Christopher Hassig of the Houston Police Department Homicide Division said the woman used male aliases in the past, including Jeffrey Escalante, but was female.
Finner later clarified, "It's the biological mother," referring to the critically injured 7-year-old boy who was shot in the head.

I can't find anything that disputes the killer was not a woman, other than internet speculation put forth to fit narratives.

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I have followed up more

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lakewood-...ne-written-gun

"Moreno, originally from El Salvador, who had a lengthy criminal record, also previously used the name Jeffrey Escalante Moreno, investigators said. The shooter was killed after off-duty police officers at the church responded to the incident. Police said two people were injured – a 57-year-old man and the child who accompanied the shooter.

Preliminary reporting indicated the shooter was transgender, but in a Monday news conference, investigators identified her as a woman and the biological mother of the 7-year-old child."

Back on topic to this proposed ban:

With all of the pro-crime policies being put into place around the nation, then the poor economic policies, etc. crime is on the rise all over. Then we add into the mix thousands upon thousands of individuals coming into the country with zero interest in obeying our laws...more crime.

With all of this, the number of bad things happening will continue to go up. Instead of addressing the cause of the crime, and wanting to "never let a tragedy go to waste" (I think it was Hillary who coined that phrase), the libs feel emboldened go full throttle with their attacks on our 2nd Amendment right. After all, why should they go after the people responsible for these heinous crimes when they can go after the tools they used - which are used legally by millions of others? Those behind these bad policies know that eventually the American people may be pushed to the point where they say "enough is enough" and use those tools to remove the criminals in office from their lofty positions. They know they risk losing their power and control over us if we have a means to fight back. So, of course they're going to push for every restriction on our right that they can possibly push out - we can't have the peasants in a position to fight back now can we?

Yes, either this bill will pass or another version will, and soon.

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"never let a tragedy go to waste" (I think it was Hillary who coined that phrase)

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Anti-gunner Rahm Emanuel

That is from Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky from the early 70’s.

I stand corrected.

Of course, Hillary isn't bright enough to have come up with that on her own.

Same deal just another day. Good reason to vacate the state.

https://youtu.be/TEdzOEDGhM0?si=EGHvBPRmNv5sCgCl


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Same deal just another day. Good reason to vacate the state.

https://youtu.be/TEdzOEDGhM0?si=EGHvBPRmNv5sCgCl


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https://www.ar-15.co/threads/192609-...apons-quot-ban

Yeah super considering leaving CO too. Too much anti-gun sentiment, and too much attempt to kill TABOR so they can increase taxes and pocket the revenue.

(2) THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY FURTHER FINDS THAT:
15 (a) ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SELF DEFENSE AND
16 ARE NOT WELL-SUITED FOR HUNTING, SPORTING, OR ANY PURPOSE OTHER
17 THAN MASS KILLING;
18 (b) THE FIREARMS INDUSTRY HAS SPECIFICALLY MARKETED
19 ASSAULT WEAPONS AS TACTICAL, HYPER MASCULINE, AND MILITARY
20 STYLE IN A MANNER THAT OVERTLY APPEALS TO THE VERY PEOPLE MOST
21 LIKELY TO ACQUIRE SUCH WEAPONS AS A MEANS TO GAIN INFAMY AS A
22 MASS SHOOTER;

More violations of our US Constitutional Rights. We need better doctors and less conniving politicians. I'll be glad when Polis is retired.

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(2) THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY FURTHER FINDS THAT:
15 (a) ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SELF DEFENSE AND
16 ARE NOT WELL-SUITED FOR HUNTING, SPORTING, OR ANY PURPOSE OTHER
17 THAN MASS KILLING;
18 (b) THE FIREARMS INDUSTRY HAS SPECIFICALLY MARKETED
19 ASSAULT WEAPONS AS TACTICAL, HYPER MASCULINE, AND MILITARY
20 STYLE IN A MANNER THAT OVERTLY APPEALS TO THE VERY PEOPLE MOST
21 LIKELY TO ACQUIRE SUCH WEAPONS AS A MEANS TO GAIN INFAMY AS A
22 MASS SHOOTER;

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https://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c?si=VfkTgu32iMAJggpq





What the holy fuck?

The hyperbole is pretty amazing for what is theoretically an official government document.

Whoever wrote that can suck my tactical, hyper masculine, military style...

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(2) THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY FURTHER FINDS THAT:
15 (a) ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SELF DEFENSE AND
16 ARE NOT WELL-SUITED FOR HUNTING, SPORTING, OR ANY PURPOSE OTHER
17 THAN MASS KILLING;
18 (b) THE FIREARMS INDUSTRY HAS SPECIFICALLY MARKETED
19 ASSAULT WEAPONS AS TACTICAL, HYPER MASCULINE, AND MILITARY
20 STYLE IN A MANNER THAT OVERTLY APPEALS TO THE VERY PEOPLE MOST
21 LIKELY TO ACQUIRE SUCH WEAPONS AS A MEANS TO GAIN INFAMY AS A
22 MASS SHOOTER;

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Whoever wrote that can suck my tactical, hyper masculine, military style...

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Johnson?

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https://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c?si=VfkTgu32iMAJggpq





What the holy fuck?

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Jesus who wrote that? Some mom demanding action? Oh, right?..

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Johnson?

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Johnsons had some girth to them.,..

If ARs are hypermasculine,

Then progressives are HypoMasculine?

Sounds about right. Given enough time they'll go extinct as nobody will have juevos left to reproduce.

Roses are red....
Violets are blue....
Our country was founded using "weapons of war".....
So fuck you!

Sounds like cartel funded legislation. Look what is going on south of the border. The narco traffickers have a large war chest and can infiltrate our state. The first step is to disarm the resistance.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tropical-...090031509.html

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I'll be glad when Polis is retired.

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His name is appearing more frequently as a possible Vice President to either Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama, once President Biden announces he is not going to run.