Fixed Blade Dagger Knives For in Car Use

My daughter has a Jeep and wants to drive it from time to time with the doors off. She?s 16, has really good situational awareness, but while I?m not a huge fan of her running with out the doors, I really don?t want the threat of some creep to dictate our lives. I thought that a fixed blade dagger knife that she can easily access would be a good active defense for her. Easier to deploy than her Griptilian and harder to take away.

Does the 3.5 inch restriction still apply like for folders or automatics? I assume that a much shorter one is optimal? Inch or 1.5 inch blade?

Just get her some bear spray. If it is supposed to fend off grizzly bears I can?t imagine an adult male wanting to stick around long after a big blast of it. Then you don?t have to sort out Colorados weird knife laws. You think she is just carrying a knife until something happens and they determine she was carrying a deadly weapon instead.

For blade length - I would stay just below 3.5" blades over 3.5" hit the easy to charge option....some of the rules might have some odd county restrictions that may or may not be enforceable. The rules might change on open carry and concealed.

Care must be taken - I think two sided edge blades might still be restricted. I did a quick search, but could not find any references to the law one way or another.

I could also be wrong but carrying a fixed blade with a blade over 3.5? is also only allowed if you?re going hunting or some such nonsense.

The knife laws in this state really are weird and you almost have to have a legal background to make sense of them.

one big issue - open carry - as in sword strapped to your back and is plainly visible versus fixed length boot knife over 3.5" that is concealed.

County laws / city laws are a real patch work and hard to figure out what is "allowed".

and for a knife stored in the car - I would go with the option of it doing dual duty as a safety knife that is designed to cut thru seat belts.

Bear spray - kind of like that as a primary option. Lets you keep your distance between the critter and your body.

I know some state laws do allow additional protection clauses when hunting / fishing.

Given the wind out here, since everyone is suggesting a bear spray, if the main concern is 2 legged threats I would consider pepper spray GEL. Otherwise, something easy to palm like a smaller bottle of Fox Labs' stuff. Especially the stream version. https://foxlabs.com/products/one-point-four-1

My concern with a knife only is it provides no standoff. I'd rather leave some creep puking in the dirt from 10' than have to close with the threat to blade length. And, if it gets to that the knife is a backup weapon. But I think it would be better to not let it get to that if possible.

Another fun option depending on the situation?.

When I am operating a motor vehicle, my primary weapon of choice is the vehicle. I don?t care how tough a guy is, he is no match for a 7,000+ lb projectile.

Another option I haven?t seen mentioned, tell her no you aren?t driving the Jeep without the doors.


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Originally Posted by hurley842002

Another option I haven?t seen mentioned, tell her no you aren?t driving the Jeep without the doors.


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"Daaaaadddddddd!!!!!!!" [ROFL1]

I let my son do it, so there is that. Where do you draw the line? I lost when we let out of the house at all…

The bear spray/gel does get around a lot of the issues on legality. Kids are well trained on the vehicle as a weapon. I love cars, but I tell them if they get attacked, they are all pieces of steel easily replaceable and repairable.

Hard that we live in these times, and those window washers at corners don’t make it any easier.

Dont let unarmed female relatives travel alone.
Regular Pepper Spray. Sabre/POM etc. Bear spray is not as effective as it is made out. Look up some of the training/information put out by John Correia.

And depending on what area your in, consider keeping the doors on.

If you want to go whole hog, Craig Douglas's course work is top notch. It's a time/money commitment because ECQC is a prereq for his vehicle combatives class but you won't leave feeling like you wasted either.

Looking at easily carried, easily concealed, knives, I like the SOC-P dagger from Benchmade (or the CQB tool from Spartan blades if you want the original). They are under the 3.5in limit so as long as you don't get the double edged version, I believe you are on the right side of the law (I'm not a lawyer though so definitely double check that).

I've trained with a lot of different combatives guys but have never really gotten into knife work as a discipline so I like the simplicity of an ice pick grip and a sewing machine style action if I ever have to put steel into someone else.

I owned my Wrangler X with the hard top and full hard doors for 18.5 years and 278K miles without taking any of them off. It's final act of devotion was saving my life when I was rear-ended at high speed on the Turnpike just east of Pecos. The frame, body, seat belt, doors, hard top and roll bar all worked in conjunction during the collision and post-impact dynamics such that I was able walk away with only minor assistance. I ended-up with a broken collar bone and aggravated ventral hernia, but it easily could have been a fatality.

Use a hard top and full hard doors.

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I owned my Wrangler X with the hard top and full hard doors for 18.5 years and 278K miles without taking any of them off. It's final act of devotion was saving my life when I was rear-ended at high speed on the Turnpike just east of Pecos. The frame, body, seat belt, doors, hard top and roll bar all worked in conjunction during the collision and post-impact dynamics such that I was able walk away with only minor assistance. I ended-up with a broken collar bone and aggravated ventral hernia, but it easily could have been a fatality.

Use a hard top and full hard doors.

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Touching on this, when I read the original post my concern for her safety would be more about a vehicle accident than someone trying to snatch her or something.

I am a long time motorcycle rider and riding in Jeeps with the doors removed kind of freaks me out a little. Lol.

Baseball bat or Hickory axe handle (or two) might be an option.

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"Daaaaadddddddd!!!!!!!" [ROFL1]

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More like (In the screech of high E) "DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

The Science Channel had a show on deconstructing things a while back. They did a semi armored spy car that had a smoke screen built into the muffler and fuel lines built into the rear view mirrors that sprayed fire out to anyone approaching the doors.