saw the first part of ten tonight on comcast for free defiantly a must watch if you liked band of brothers. ending to part was slightly humorous.birthday song!
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saw the first part of ten tonight on comcast for free defiantly a must watch if you liked band of brothers. ending to part was slightly humorous.birthday song!
There was a re-broacast on the 101...
Was going to buy HBO... but saw that...
I need to see the whole 10 episode thing to evaluate...
Maybe the 101 will play more.
I saw it on 101.
I did not like how in 1 episode they jumped right into making it look like Americans like to tortue people and are raceist.
I did my 5 years of service and I dont like how hollywood likes to portray American service members.
Sure they have 10 episodes to show the entire war in the pacific, but if they want to show how that builds in some people as they watch over and over their friends killed and such, fine, but this is typical hollywood crap to me to make American service members look bad.
Did you hear the interview with Tom Hanks, I did not hear the whole thing, what I heard was him spouting out crap about American.
I wonder how the last episode will be, they going to make it look like we are monsters because we used the A-bomb?
These people dont understand why we serve our country and put our lives on the line and have no concept of what it takes to win a war.
Its no coincidence that WWII (Europe and Pacific theaters) were the last wars we won.
Here is some of Hanks B.S.
HBO’s eagerly awaited The Pacific follows three soldiers as they travel through the Pacific campaign. In the piece, Hanks notes that they won’t shrink from the horror of America’s own brutality in the war, and he’s eager to show how our battle in the Pacific compares to a current war in the Middle East:“From the outset we wanted to make people wonder how our troops can reenter society in the first place. How could they just pick up their lives and get on with the rest of us. Back in World War II we viewed the Japanese as ‘yellow slant-eyed dogs’ that believed in different Gods. They were out to kill us because our way of living was different. Does that sound familiar by any chance to what’s going on today?”
i really liked it, it was like band of brothers and i liked the birthday song as well and i agree that they do make them seem like bad people witch is bs but overall liked it
Jim - thanks for the interview excerpt. I really enjoyed Band of Brothers, but it sounds like The Pacific is something that will never grace a television set in my home.
I'm going to continue watching it, but I did notice the American brutality part. Why is it Hollyweird never shows the atrocities that the Germans or the Japanese committed? How about the Bataan Death March? How about how they tortured and excecuted American Marines and soldiers? How about the Nanking massacre? The biological and chemical weapons testing they did on Chinese slaves? Fuck hollyweird.
They have their agenda...
ETA: I'm sitting here watching a Bogart movie where He is battling Nazi spys,, Times have changed...
They sure have. Remember when Hollywood made movies where Americans were always the good guys and any nation who was our enemy was always the bad guy? I can't understand why they've turned 180 degrees.
About 1956.. I think.. with On the Beach...[Tooth]
Sorry,, 1959.....
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137/
Band of Brothers had a whole episode based on the 506th liberating a concentration camp. In reality, the 506th didn't do this, but Hollyweird wrote it in anyway to show the horrors of Nazism.Quote:
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And a few years ago I'm pretty sure I remember watching a movie about the Holocaust (one of many, of course, but this one stuck with me because it won a lot of awards). Something about a list, or something. It was in black and white. Maybe I just dreamed it.
Schindler's List.
You're right, they did cover that. Nazis are bad. It's funny though that you rarely see anything about the Japanese atrocities.
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You mean how they dumped their televisions into our market and single-handedly collapsed the American TV manufacturing industry? Crichton wrote about that in Rising Sun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Birddog1911
Just kidding, I know what you mean. Well, actually I don't, because I've never had the opportunity to watch a movie that laid it out for me.
My Granddad was a China Marine, and had pictures of one village that the Japs went into and slaughtered. I want to say it was Nanking, but I can't be 100% certain. The list is pretty long on crap that they did.
It's interesting how the fact that we nuked two of their cities is the central point that always seems to come up when referring to Japan. Never mind that they murdered the civilian contractors they captured on Guam, the way they treated their captives, that they had their very own nuke program that was getting close to some success, they committed uncounted atrocities in Malaysia with all the Brits they captured (Bridge over the River Kwai is based on fact), and the Rape of Nanking where they tossed babies in the air and caught them on bayonets for an example. The list goes on and on.
They were planning on fighting until there wasn't a single live Japanese citizen left if we had invaded. And they wouldn't have batted an eye if they'd nuked us first. So I find it ironic at best that they are so put out about being nuked. As horrible a pair of events as they were, in the end the suffering that was averted massively outweighs what would have happened otherwise.
In my opinion nuking them doesn't even begin to outweigh the things perpetrated by the Japanese during the war and before it. They were treated so much better after the war than they treated anyone they conquered, it's almost impossible to assign a value to it.
I think that's more to do with the Pacific being the 'forgotten theater.' I certainly know a lot more about WWII in Europe and to a lesser extent Africa than I do about the Pacific.Quote:
Originally Posted by Birddog1911
Off the top of my head, though, a couple of years ago there was a movie about a raid to free US POWs in the Far East which showed some pretty brutal scenes of Japanese atrocities.
And as we're only into episode one of ten with The Pacific, I don't know what they are going to show. I watched the first episode on Sunday and I didn't notice any racism or torture.
If they do show scenes like that in the context of the wider war, it would still be a lot less disturbing to me than the fact that right now in Japan school textbooks essentially whitewash the things that they did.
That would be the Burma theater of operations..