Well, solved that problem

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04-12-2010, 22:42
spleify

Well, solved that problem

So in conjunction with my other thread about wanting to buy a S&W M&P 15-22 http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22359 I did find one, and at a great price. Only problem is, because I live in the wonderful town they call Denver, we have this brilliant rule about not being able to own a magazine with a capacity over 21 rounds. Well the 15-22 comes with a 25 round mag. Because of this dumb ass law in Denver the place I bought the gun from would not send me the mag that is supposed to come with the gun, so they pulled it out and shipped the gun without a mag.

S&W does make a 10 round mag, but it is the same size as the standard 30 round mag, IMO they look ridiculous and serve no purpose of being that long.

So I went out and bought a 25 round mag and decided to bastardize it.

So in conclusion, shame on S&W for not making better/more mags for there weapon, and fuck Denver for there stupid ass law.

Heres what I ended up with after playing in the garage for a little while today.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...c/IMG_3766.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...c/IMG_3767.jpg

On the left you can see the section I cut out and did not use.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...c/IMG_3768.jpg

Basically what I did was cut the bottom off so I could use the stock floor plate, cut a section out of the center of it, and cut down the spring. Then used an industrial 2 part epoxy and glued the 2 sections back together. So now I have a 10 round mag that looks better and is much more convenient if I am going to be bench shooting.
04-12-2010, 22:48
Not_A_Llama

The law in Denver specifically exempts .22

Which isn't to say that our cops and DA(s) won't try the "forfeit the gun and we'll drop (frivolous) charges" ploy.
04-12-2010, 22:50
spleify

Really? .22 cals are not included in the law?
04-12-2010, 22:59
Not_A_Llama

Probably not what you wanted to hear, huh?

http://library.municode.com/HTML/102...AIV_D2_s38-130

Sec. 38-130. Assault weapons.

(c)
Specific weapons not included. As used in this section, assault weapon does not include any of the following:

<truncated>

(2)
Any firearm that uses .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.

Again, though, DPD has been known to disregard the law, even for nonresidents transiting the city, in contravention of subsection (e). The arrangement usually looks like "forfeit the gun and we won't prosecute".
04-12-2010, 23:15
spleify

No not exactly what I wanted to hear. But if it is still possible to get busted with it I will avoid the whole situation. I will try and make a bunch more of the shorter mags.

Thanks for the info Llama.

How can they confiscate the weapon, if technically it is not illegal?

Thanks
04-12-2010, 23:34
Not_A_Llama

I don't have links to specific incidents, and am having trouble relocating them. The stories tend to show up on blogs, which disappear quickly. Someone might be able to dig them up.

I got this:
http://billllsidlemind.blogspot.com/...fiscation.html

Basic principle: They don't care.
04-13-2010, 04:22
GhostRider

nice work, how does it feed? any problems?
04-13-2010, 05:59
spleify

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not_A_Llama

I don't have links to specific incidents, and am having trouble relocating them. The stories tend to show up on blogs, which disappear quickly. Someone might be able to dig them up.

I got this:
http://billllsidlemind.blogspot.com/...fiscation.html

Basic principle: They don't care.

Wow thats too bad. Oh well, I am happier with the shorter mags anyway. I like the way they look too.

Thanks for the info!
04-13-2010, 06:00
spleify

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostRider

nice work, how does it feed? any problems?

Well....I don't have the gun yet, I wanted to be prepaired for when it got here. So, I will have to get back to you on how it performs.

Thanks
04-13-2010, 08:34
funkfool

How many coils did you trim off the spring?
04-13-2010, 08:45
Irving

Did you make it a 10 rounder instead of a 20 rounder just for space?
04-13-2010, 10:54
sniper7

good ingenuity!
hopefully it feeds good and you have the spring pressure correct.
04-13-2010, 11:54
ronaldrwl

You say the 10 and 25 mags are the same size? Can you alter the 10 to hold 25?
04-13-2010, 13:41
spleify

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkfool

How many coils did you trim off the spring?

I cut it down from 11 1/2" to 8". It will actually accept 11 rounds if you force it. I will just call it a comfortable 10 rounder.
04-13-2010, 13:43
spleify

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart

Did you make it a 10 rounder instead of a 20 rounder just for space?

Yes, I like the shorter mags for bench shooting. I ordered 4 more mags, and intend on cutting them all down. I will make 2 more 10 rounder and 2 20 rounders. I wil be very careful to make sure the 20 round mags will not take any more. Just to be sure I may even make them 18 round mags, that way there is no question.
04-13-2010, 13:44
spleify

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniper7

good ingenuity!
hopefully it feeds good and you have the spring pressure correct.

Thanks, yeah I was thinking the same thing. I hope it works well. It sould, I really dont feel a difference in how it is now compared to before I cut it. But the gun will tell me for sure.
04-13-2010, 13:46
spleify

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldrwl

You say the 10 and 25 mags are the same size? Can you alter the 10 to hold 25?

Yes they are the same size. I havn't seen the two mags next to each other, but I would assume either the spring is longer or the follower is longer in the 10 round mag.