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It took me 30 minutes to reassembly it. I must have been doing it wrong, that was way to hard. At the next club shoot, somebody has got to show me the right way. There must be tricks the manual didn't include which basically gives the DCR instructions:
Step 1: Dissemble
Step 2: Clean
Step 3: Reassemble
I hate those manuals that include instructions for three or four different variants of the same firearm in the "if you have X, do Y, if you have A, do B" style. Come on, you're selling me this thing for $800, print a separate manual for each model and don't be so cheap.
Oh man. I am so with you guys on this one.
One would think that even if they put aside the fact that you're spending in the hundreds for the items, they'd at least consider that it's a firearm and proper disassembly/clean/reassembly could be a safety issue; ya think?!
When I borrowed my grandpa's Colt 1911 to check it out, I had to go onto Youtube to learn how to field strip it. I've done the same thing for my M&P, just haven't actually completely stripped that gun yet.
With my CZ, I've had it completely disassembled, except for the trigger group, and did that just from Googling how to take it apart. If I left it up to the manual to tell me what to do, my gun would never have been cleaned and stored in a safe with an action lock still on it.
Soon enough you'll become a real 1911 owner and detail strip it [Tooth]
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/photo-15.jpg
It's really not as bad as it looks.
Completely agree. It takes 2,5-3 minutes to assemble that, if it is built & fitted properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graves
It is matter of technique, not force :) However, different guns need different things - bb/reverse plug, full lenght/short guide rod...
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Originally Posted by foxtrot
Foxtrot is right.... get /w a long time 1911 shooter and he will show you! not even kidding!!!
Not even kidding anybody, if I cant do this to a gun, its not worth carrying! I try and learn on friends guns that are dirty like (insert board member name you hate here's) girlfriend...Quote:
Originally Posted by Graves
I tell them to give it to me for 3 days. The always cry as to how clean it is! I cry as to how confused I was, but they dont know that! haha
I want to detail strip my M&P like that, and just let everything soak in a bucket for a few hours.
My first 1911 was tighter then a snare drum and was a PITA to put back together
Yes it can be intimidating at first but like most things the more you do it and practice the easier it becomes. I went a bought a Rock Island armory 1911 for just that purpose. With the RIA I learned to completely disassemble/reassemble then learn how to modify it. Some people complain about the Schwartz safety thingy on the newer Kimbers but even that is not difficult once you learn how it works and understand it. I would never own a 1911 without know how to completely disassemble and reassemble it either! Lots of good how disassemble and reassemble all kinds of 1911's videos on you tube also!
Check out youtube.com. I know there are video's on there on how to assemble/disassemble a 1911.
This thread is not helping my desire to own a 1911.
H.
It hasn't been said yet?
"That's why I own Glock...."
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHA. I had a Kimber 1911 once... Fantastic firearm, but had to sell for some $$...
The first time it seemed to take forever, and I had to replace that one thing that sproinged and I never found, but after doing it a couple of times it really is quick and easy.
There are online and hardcopy manuals that take you through the process step by step, the correct way. I didn't want anyone to bubba my toy, so I started with the Army manual and The Big Book of the .45 (or something like that).
Then I handed one to an idiot gunsmith, but that's a different thread.
Take what you learned last time and try again.
if its the one i sold to you, thats why it has the "idiot scratch" on it. it took me a while, and i didnt want to mark it up anymore, so i took it to the gunsmith, and had him show me. after that it was a piece of cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart
It ain't that hard. I hadn't owned a handgun for many, many years when I bought a RIA 1911A1 on sale. I'd NEVER owned a 1911 before, never even held one, but I figured out how to field strip it in minutes. Only later did I find some instructions on the 'net, which made it even easier. Never idiot-scratched one yet.
Oh yeah, taking it apart is easy.
First Colt .45 acp ,I ever shot was my Grandfather's.
It's now mine,,stripped and rebuilt several times,by me.
Slide stops DO NOT ROTATE INTO PLACE. They should snap straight in. Occasionally with some colorful adjectives.
LMAO! Yeah ever since my first try I have never had a problem with installing one without putting a mark on my polished stainless 1911.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
Ran across over on 1911.org and thought it was pretty cool idea. Here's a simple modification, done at Nighthawk and by others, on the slide stop that doesn't affect normal function but can preclude the "Idiot Scratch" upon reassembly. It's readily done with a needle file.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...deStopMod1.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...ModInstall.jpg
Dagnabbit, now I feel an urge to go fiddle with one. No good ever comes of such behavior, I'll decide to "fix" something that's not broken or something...
But they are due for an oil change!
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Originally Posted by wyzardd
I'm going to have to disagree with you one on that one. If you are not working on a $1k+ pistol or something the education and what you can learn by "doing" is well worth the experience to me. My 02 cents anyway.
That may be true for normal people, but I start out thinking there's a little too much metal there, or that part is a little rough, and then get frustrated that the whetstone is taking too long, and then I'm on Brownells ordering a new part.
Honestly, that only happened once.
I got the tool from Brownell's to install the slide stop. Or, I've used the end of a wooden Qtip to do the same thing. But I recall seeing SA Friday mention that if you find a 1911 without the scratch, odds are you'll see a 1911 that hasn't been maintained. I'd tend to agree, it doesn't take much to scratch one that way. One little slip......
Once you're used to a 1911, though, they're not bad at all. It's just getting used to them, like stripping an AR, except a few more tricks and techniques.
This is what I was gonna say. LOTS of info on there when it comes do take down and reassembly of firearms.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoWyo