It seems that every time I see a used XD go up for sale it is usually a 45. I don't seem to notice as many 9mm or 40 cal ones hit the market. Is there a reason people are getting rid of their XD45s?
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It seems that every time I see a used XD go up for sale it is usually a 45. I don't seem to notice as many 9mm or 40 cal ones hit the market. Is there a reason people are getting rid of their XD45s?
Every tactical instructor I know of doesn't trust them because they jam up during classes. This applies to ALL XD models, the non M 9mm is the most reliable version, but this is relative. One 9mm locked up during fighting pistol. I can send you links to threads or just join getoffthex.com and search for xd problems (don't post the same question they don't like repeating themselves)
Get a glock or m&p.
I have had Glocks in the past and they are great guns. I was mostly just curious and was trying to better educate myself. Thanks for the reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf202
I've never heard about that problem with XDs and seriously doubt that is why people are selling them.
My guess was that it is strictly numbers. If SA sold more of the XDs in 45 than other calibers then it would make sense that most of the ones on the used market are 45s. That was my original thought. Just wasn't sure.
That's what I was thinking as well. If not, then I guess no one trusts Glock 9mm either.
Seen it happen. The gun had to be put in a vice and beat open with a hammer. The instructors made it clear that it's a semi common occurrence for XD's. The M series have a weak barrel ramp and get dents from rapid fire ball ammo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart
Then there's the parts availability issues.
I don't think it's why they're being sold, but it's certainly kept me from buying one. A shame because they're much more comfortable than a glock.
Are you talking about XD or XDM? They are different handguns. I'm guessin' we can compare good reviews to bad reviews all day.
After break in, I have had no problems with an XD40. The XD45 is still in the break in process but has had no problems.
Personally, I am not a fan of Glock ergonomics. Granted, they are reliable.
YMMV
Well speaking as someone who sold one, I would easily have trusted my XD45C with my life. I sold mine because I was consolidating platforms and it wasn't a consolidation to XD, which honestly I could have done just as easily as Glock.
+1. Wulf's right on the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf202
Until the XD's can demonstrate years of (a much better) track record, like Glock has, I personally will continue to pass.
I have a XD that has well more then 10,000 and the only malfunction it has had has been a stove pipe. Well a couple more but that was from learning to reload and putting to much crimp on the bullets and having failure to feed. They truly are great guns.
I am calling BS on instructor story. I have only heard bad things from people that are die hard glock fans.
Glocks are great guns but lets face facts; there is a new competator in town and they are giving Glock a run for there money.
If I decided not to purchase any gun that I've ever heard/seen a failure story about, especially at a match, then I'd be showing up with a sack of rocks tied to my belt at the next match I attend.
Plus one on that! All guns will have malfunctions. Have the time it is the user's fault not the gun.
:rolleyes: Believe what you what but the story isn't "BS".Quote:
I am calling BS on instructor story. I have only heard bad things from people that are die hard glock fans.
There's a BIG difference in testing a firearm through a tactical school that really puts it through the ringer (ie. Tac. Response, Suarez, etc.) vs. standing still at the range in an isosceles putting slow, deliberate shots on paper. Big difference.
And for the record, I don't have a pony in this race or work for Glock. I could truly care less who is "better". When I first chose between the tupperware, I did my research and went with Glock, simple as that.
Interesting... I have a Glock, my friend has a XD.45 Both have quite a few hundreds of rounds through them... Neither of us has had a malfunction except one FTF because of debris in a dropped mag....
I'll say it all day long to any of you who want to listen. The XD is a good gun, one of the best out of the box triggers I've found - YMMV - and the ergonomics, grip safety and general function are a viable alternative to the Glock if that's your thing.
Yeah they had their issues and the M's have their issues as well (plenty of info out there explaining the why's) but the M's and the 4th Gen Glocks seem to have very similar issues... hmmm. M&P's had their growing pains, but all three are viable side arms. The worse complaint I've heard is that they are inaccurate. I am not the best pistol shot, so I didn't blame the tool.
As for gross failure, shit, that sounds like a bias to me, I've not heard, read or noticed these massive failures or issues. I'm a sampling of one. But the erronet will tell you what ever you want if that's what you're looking for. There are plenty of XD's in circulation, if these issues were that prevalent, then the market would have corrected the issue ala loss of market share. The bottom line is that the XD, M&P and Glock fans will bash each other as is typical errornet fashion and form.
+1 when i got mine it was about $75 less then a glock and it fit my hand well, only problem i had was with one of those 30rd mags and that was partly my fault because I took out the follower to clean out the grease and put it in backward but I got through all 29 without issuse. I do wish there were more parts around for itQuote:
Originally Posted by BadShot
True that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BadShot
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Originally Posted by Graves
AHAHAHAHA!! "I have a functional brain and know not to pull the trigger." HAHAHAHA.
I owned second generation Glocks and put many, many thousands of rounds through them with absolutely zero malfunctions of any kind. I recently acquired a XD45 and will test the reliability of it for myself. As time allows, I will shoot the thing and report back here with good or bad results. I always wanted a Glock in 45 ACP but they just don't fit my hand. The XD fits quite well and I got a heck of a deal on it.
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Originally Posted by Driftwood
I have over 1500 rounds through mine and haven't had a FTF, FTE or stove pipe. It's accurate and reliable.
It's an XD9.
ive had the xd in 9mm and .45 and i just loved them, i never had any problems with either. i sold them to get another gun i wanted more and would buy a xd again with out thinking. p.s im a glock guy from my first gun ever being a glock
Getting off the Chevy vs Ford debate and back to the OP's original question. There are several XD9s for sale in the FS section. My guess is it's cyclical. Your looking for 9mm, there is nothing. Your looking for .45, there is nothing. :rolleyes::D
OK. Looks like I should have Friday off. Will drag the XD to the range and put a few rounds through it and see how it does. Will report my impression of it afterwards. [Beer]
Well, I only had time to put 100 rounds through it today. The picture below is the first 20 rounds shot at 10 yards. Not too bad considering I had never shot the thing before. I fired some rounds at 25 and 50 yards as well after I got a better feel for the gun but quite a few shots were simply fired into the backstop because I was simply testing for function. I had no malfunctions of any kind. Overall I am rather happy with the XD. It points well, fits my hand well, is reliable, and accurate enough for its intended purpose. It also has the nicest factory trigger I have felt on any striker-fired handgun.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...0/DSCF1822.jpg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFF0TbhgQMY&feature=channel
1911 torture test. It's a Para Ordnance but still a 1911
I had an XD45. I had two issues with it.
First I had a few Jams that i Blame on Crappy Reloads, once I started shooting store bought no problems.
Second when i sold it to my buddy I was cleaning it and the barrel fell out of battery when reassembling it. Took us the better part of an hour to put it back together.
Other than that i loved it.
Glocks, I hate them so much I put one on layaway at sportsman's warehouse. :)
I did this for two reasons. It was a RTF 17 and it felt better in my hand. And Glocks are the 350 (motor) or the gun world. They make everything, and anything for them, and i mean everything. Grips, metal frames, Stocks, WTF stocks? Its awesome.[Beer]
I too had reload issues with some that I didnt crimp the case correctly, on my XD 45. My first impression was the best groups I have ever shot with a new pistol. I liked it so much I picked up an OD XDM 9mm.
[M2]
Have owned an XD45 for over a year now and put a few hundred rounds through it with absolutely no problems. Love the gun and since I am lefty the ambidextrous features of the XD is why I chose that route since glocks suck in that area. Shot both though and they are very comparable and overall great guns!
I am really liking my XD45
I ran about 150 through it today.
the only thing I find is that it highlights my shooting flaws, Other than that, Great weapon and I have no problems with it.
Thank you Grave and sparky for taking such great care of it :)
I have had both Glock and XD's. I have run through heavy tactical shooting with 300 rounds in a day. both Guns run good. About the same number of failures (next to none) both due to ammo. For me the XD is a better fit and a better pointer. I have 3 XD's and 2 XDm's and not one of them has been a clunker. Those guns just fits me better than glocks. I wanted to love glocks but they were not my cup of tea. I sure don't get the hate on that glock guys have for XD'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Driftwood
I have a 1st gen XD45 and it's been great. In fact, it's my go to gun for home defense and I own many handguns.
Ya +1 on get a Glock. I had an xd 9 tactical. It was a piece of turd that jammed a lot. Only benefit I got out of it was a lot of fte, ftf and stove pipe clearing practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf202
IMO, there may be some owners selling off XD45s so they can buy the XDM45. I knew of a few people in Oklahoma that were doing this, and it could be the case here. We have a M&P 40, and an XDM40, both with a few rounds fired thru them, mostly reloads. Easily 500+ rounds each, and the XDM was bought used, so who knows the round count on it. Neither one has jammed, hiccupped, or anything. They just go bang each time. My only fuss with my XDM is the trigger pull. With my long fingers, I had to retrain myself in how I held the gun, compared to my 1911s. Once I did that, it shot pretty accurate. IMO, any instructor pipping off about frequent major failures of one of the major gun makers, be it Glock, Colt, Smith, Springfield, etc., is probably biased, and his thoughts should be taken with a grain of salt. Now any of those saturday night specials out there, I could believe them having such issues.
Never really had problems with mine.. 1300 + rounds.. I wanna say something like 3 fte and one was on reloads, and one was my brother in laws girl friend shooting.... I trust mine... All of it was the cheapest ammo I could find too. This is a 9mm btw. And write honestly, I have heard nothing but good about them from any dealer I've talked too (cept glock guys of course[Beer])
If I remember correctly the CSP was looking at these, and had issues with them. They ended up going with M&P's.
Huh?
jam up during class?
And if we want to check your story, we have to join a social-networking site?
A members-only social networking site is going to have MORE information than the normal web and all of the firearms related forums that exist?
There is one reason and only one reason the XD has not been made popular by police departments, because they wont sell spare parts to ANYBODY.
The XD is just a boat anchor looking gun, no sexiness to it at all. And the majority of the people I know who sold their XD45's did so so they could buy an XDM45 with the fancy grip replacements and all the other little improvements they made.
XD had a real magazine supply problem a while back too, it didn't help it's sales at all. All in all Springfield Armory has a real blockhead for a marketing director, whoever it is that has been making decisions on the XD's rollout and liaison with the public and government sectors has GOT to be the product of two first-cousins breeding.
Police Chiefs and Sheriff's listen to their firearms instructors when it comes to picking pistols, and you DONT tell a professional police armorer that he "doesn't need spare parts" - because the word he'll pass on is that it's not an acceptable gun.
Cops don't own an XD because their departments dont approve them, yes I know a few HAVE approved them, but no major ones (yet). The perception that a pistol is good/bad is greatly influenced by whether or not the police can carry them. A gun that a cop uses gets exercised AT LEAST quarterly under stressful conditions, not to mention subject to daily wear and other use - and no cop is going to carry a gun off duty that he can't train with on duty, or have his armorer fix. And by and large if someone who doesn't own a gun looks around for an opinion about what gun to buy, chances are he or she will ask a cop they know. And you're going to hear things about what the cops carries, with 90 percent or better cops carrying ONLY weapons that their department approves - you've ignored the best marketing tool you could have by failing to find a way to get your pistol into their hands.
The M&P got popular not only because it took all the current design features and got them into the pistol quickly, but because they courted and listened to LE armorers. As a result the M&P is gaining market share daily.
All that being said, I go with Glock, because parts are DIRT CHEAP and there is a huge body of first hand knowledged about potential failure points.
I do own 2 XD's in 45, they have never failed me once in three years. I've sold a couple to others too, but not because I didn't trust them, but 5 XD45's was a bit much, even for me.
I would, without hesitation, recommend that any person shoot the XD45 to see if it fits them personally, but what do I know!
Have never had these issues. In any quantity. I shot 3 of my xd's on Friday about 200 rounds each, I was using some really cheap Russian ammo I wanted to test and had another 0 (ZERO) failure day. I think it has been over a year since I have had a single failure at the range or running and gunning. Don't know where all of the failure are coming from that are talked about. My wife doesn't even limp wrist it enough to induce the issues that are being talked about here.Quote:
Originally Posted by banks74
go ahead and browse through this:
http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/general...ional-use.html
many different torture tests have been run, it never failed to fire. the same types of tests all the glock fanboys have run on their glocks.
tl;dr it is just as good as a glock as far as torture testing and extreme conditions go. so its personal preference.