Anyone seen a B-24?

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07-14-2010, 11:17
Ridge

Anyone seen a B-24?

The Pueblo Historical Aircraft Society (PHAS) has misplaced WWII aircraft and they are asking for the public’s help to find them.

Legend has it that B-17 and B-24 Bombers were buried near the Pueblo Airport when the property was the Pueblo Army Airbase, which was closed down in the late 1940s. At that time it was standard practice for the military to bury aircraft before closing down a base.

PHSA is looking for someone who witnessed the burial of the aircraft to determine a more exact location in which to search. Family members of those who served at the Pueblo Army Airbase might also have information.

Although thousands of B-17 and B-24 Bombers were built during the WWII years, very few remain. The goal of the Pueblo Historical Aircraft Society is to uncover and restore these historical aircraft.

If you have pictures, maps, or information regarding the Pueblo Army Airbase, or the whereabouts of the planes, contact Joe Musso, restoration unit crew chief, at the Pueblo Weisbrod Aircraft Museum, 719-948-9219.

More about the Pueblo Weisbrod Aircraft Museum and the B-24

The International B-24 Memorial Museum is a reminder of Pueblo’s military heritage and its place in military history. The Pueblo Army Airbase was a B-24 training site from 1942-1946. Thousands of aircrew members trained in Pueblo and then went on to military assignments in all theaters of operation during WWII.

The main purpose of the museum is to honor all those involved in the design, production and military deployment of the B-24 Liberator. It is unique that it is the only known museum dedicated to a specific airplane.

Although the museum lacks an actual B-24 to display, the indoor collection of B-24 technical and design data, military uniforms, airborne radio equipment, photographs, flight log books and other military aviation memorabilia accurately portrays the B-24.

The museum also houses more than a dozen aircraft dating to World War II, including the huge B-29, "Peachy". Outside are 13 additional planes, which will be moved into a second 30,000 square- foot museum hangar when its construction is completed this fall.

Since its founding, PHAS has received thousands of artifacts from those who wanted to aid in efforts to preserve military air history. The society has become the repository of items from individuals or families of loved ones who served in the U.S. military from WW I to the present. More than 100 display cases and exhibits display the uniforms, personal gear, weapons and other artifacts from all branches of the U. S. military and its allies and enemies.

The museum is open Monday-Saturday, 10-4, Sunday, 12-4. Admission is $7.00 for visitors age 10 and older.
07-14-2010, 11:31
BigBear

Interesting... I do have access to a sonarsled... could be a fun field trip....
07-14-2010, 11:37
Hoosier

This is a fun museum to visit.

H.
07-14-2010, 14:31
Byte Stryke

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Originally Posted by BigBear

Interesting... I do have access to a sonarsled... could be a fun field trip....

I'll bring the beer!
07-14-2010, 14:53
rforsythe

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Originally Posted by Hoosier

This is a fun museum to visit.

H.

Yep, lots of fun stuff there. It's a nice lunch trip down from Centennial in a Cessna, eat there in the terminal and walk through the museum.
07-14-2010, 16:21
Ryan_Th3_K1d

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Originally Posted by rforsythe

Yep, lots of fun stuff there. It's a nice lunch trip down from Centennial in a Cessna, eat there in the terminal and walk through the museum.

Yup that is a blast! Did that for one of my CAP orientation flights.
07-14-2010, 17:03
Jolly Green

I was in CAP too! Free flights are the best.
07-14-2010, 23:46
Ryan_Th3_K1d

yeah I was in CAP for about a year, things just got to busy and something had to be cut out :( I got to do a glider flight over bolder on a clear sunny day, what a view :D

It all depends on the squadron. I heard stories of other squadrons being all PC and stuff, but ours(Valkyrie) wasn't that way at all. Had some epic capture the flag games behind the Wings of the Rockies museum [Weight]
07-15-2010, 09:17
7idl

I find it hard to believe they would burry aircraft.
think about it, it takes time, space and money to do so.
now, in the theater of combat, destroy in place sounds more the norm.

that said, I have heard first hand accounts of all kinds of things big and small, burried in Viet Nam
07-15-2010, 11:12
Ridge

Hell, they found a boat under the WTC yesterday...
07-15-2010, 11:13
cowboykjohnson

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Originally Posted by Ridge

Hell, they found a boat under the WTC yesterday...

Really?
07-15-2010, 13:29
clublights

turns out yes really LOL

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=128533439
07-15-2010, 13:32
cowboykjohnson

Wow that's pretty cool.
07-16-2010, 21:31
Troublco

I heard stories years ago when I was a young airman about an old Army Warrant officer who was detailed to bury a bunch of stuff, loaded into deuce and a halves, somewhere on Buckley. Just dug a big trench with a bulldozer, drove the trucks in, and covered 'em up. They called it Mog's (sp?) folly. I've heard similar stories over the years too, from different places. I'm sure there are more out there.
07-16-2010, 22:41
theGinsue

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Originally Posted by Ridge

If you have pictures, maps, or information regarding the Pueblo Army Airbase, or the whereabouts of the planes, contact Joe Musso, restoration unit crew chief, at the Pueblo Weisbrod Aircraft Museum, 719-948-9219.

Hey! I know that guy. Joe is/was a member of the 501st Legion of Stormtroopers (as I am). Joe was a Sheriff's Deputy - I think for Pueblo Co, working at the jail when he and several other deputies had to enter a cell to get control of an inmate. Joe had the inmate and was bent over at the waist when another deputy jumped on Joe - causing several damage to his back. The last I saw Joe he had to carry around a gallon zip-loc full of pain meds. The Sheriff's office he worked for paid for a couple of months of convelescence for him then cut him loose.

Glad to see that he has found gainful employement. For his sake, I hope they don't find the buried plane(s) too quickly.
07-17-2010, 05:03
Glock Shooter

I can't specifically pick out a B24, but about 4 years ago while working in the Flatirons Office complex right by the airport, we watched about a half dozen really old military planes land. On their way across the country on a tour. There were dozens of cars lined up along the road but we had a fantastic vantage point from the lounge in our building.
07-17-2010, 07:49
Hoser

I cant tell you how many thousands of hours I have spent at the Pueblo Airport doing touch and goes or over at the east side playing with NVGs in the middle of the night.

Not once I have I seen a place to bury a B-24. There is some large ditches on the west and north-ish side of the airport property, but nothing big enough to hide a 100' wide and 20' tall airplane...

I bet they find Atlantis or Jimmy Hoffa before they find a buried B-24.
07-17-2010, 10:34
Hoosier

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Originally Posted by Hoser

I cant tell you how many thousands of hours I have spent at the Pueblo Airport doing touch and goes or over at the east side playing with NVGs in the middle of the night.

Not once I have I seen a place to bury a B-24. There is some large ditches on the west and north-ish side of the airport property, but nothing big enough to hide a 100' wide and 20' tall airplane...

I bet they find Atlantis or Jimmy Hoffa before they find a buried B-24.

You have to remember the original Army Air Corps base stretched down to what is Hwy 50 now. All those grid roads near the airport were laid out in 18 months to build that base. There is all kinds of room where a bomber could have been buried. They might also have chopped wings, tails, stabilizers etc to get it to fit.

H.
07-22-2010, 23:05
Stinky

It is standard policy for the military to bury junk....especially when they leave a combat zone. A division has engineers...engineers have bulldozers. AND, especially when they close a base and/or leave an area.

If they buried them, they won't be in one piece....they'll have been pushed in the the hole, had the wings hacked off and etc.

I saw a trailer once. The owner said that he was using a metal detector out in the desert, in AZ, where Patton got ready to go to N-Africa. He found a pintle donut, about 12" deep in the dirt. They kept digging until they found the rest of the trailer. He towed it around w/his Landcruiser.

In Saudi, the 24th ID made a hole in the ground. It was 100 yards long, the width of a bulldozer blade, about 5' deep. All of their un-expended ordinance went in the hole. Then, it got filled in. The Saudis don't even know that it is on their property [ROFL1][IMG]file:///C:/Users/Helen/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-20.png[/IMG] [IMG]file:///C:/Users/Helen/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-21.png[/IMG]
07-23-2010, 07:01
Ranger

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Originally Posted by Stinky

The Saudis don't even know that it is on their property [ROFL1]

If any of it goes off they won't even know it was us, it'll just be "Damn Bin Laden at it again, we should have grounded him more often"