Screw Remington Rant

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12-10-2010, 20:42
mx'r

Screw Remington *Rant*

I bought a Remignton o/u several years ago. Been hunting with it w/o any problems. Never fired 3" until this week. Mistake. BOTH barrels let go at once. WOW. Ruined the bird and almost killed me and my dog. No apparent dammage to gun and it still fires 2 3/4" shells fine or bottom barrel 2 3/4" and top 3". Remington told me on the phone today that they will fix it, but only if I have a bill of sale and receipt. I have neither. Fuckem. I'm mailing it back without a return address. Also getting rid of the other 6 Remington firearms that I own, and all the field gear that has the Remington logo on it. I cant believe that a well respected manufacturer wont stand behind their defective product that could be DEADLY. You'd think they'd fix it and send another one back with it and ask me to keep it quiet. That's what Winchester did when I had a problem years ago.
Rant over.
12-10-2010, 21:39
mx'r

There is no damage (to gun) so I didnt take any pics. There is a pic of the gun that I posted in the hunting forum under " afternoon pheasants". Still works fine, but still has an issue with both barells firing the 3" at the same time. I was bloody from a busted nose, and tore the meat on my trigger finger. I'll destroy the other firearms before I help spread their name/weapons instead of selling them. Just dont care.
12-10-2010, 22:25
Graves

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Originally Posted by mx'r

There is no damage (to gun) so I didnt take any pics. There is a pic of the gun that I posted in the hunting forum under " afternoon pheasants". Still works fine, but still has an issue with both barells firing the 3" at the same time. I was bloody from a busted nose, and tore the meat on my trigger finger. I'll destroy the other firearms before I help spread their name/weapons instead of selling them. Just dont care.

Sorry to hear of your troubles and I'm glad you're okay...but uhhhh...send them to me for quick disposal. [Beer]
12-10-2010, 22:53
Batteriesnare

Glad you're okay. Their response is quite concerning.
12-10-2010, 22:59
BPTactical

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Originally Posted by Graves

Sorry to hear of your troubles and I'm glad you're okay...but uhhhh...send them to me for quick disposal. [Beer]

Before you send them to him I think I had better inspect them first[Twist]

Recoil induced misfire?
Maybe the same guy that designed the 700 trigger had a hand in these.
Interesting issue.
12-10-2010, 23:31
mx'r

Yes BP, from what Remington told me it is recoil induced. I love the way the gun shoots, but WAY to dangerous keep around. One would think a quick install of some firing pin springs would fix the problem. Cant believe that Remington is gonna fight this one.
12-10-2010, 23:32
sniper7

He'll I want to shoot that thing! That is just what I need for pheasants! Double my chances [ROFL1]

Ill be calling you tomorrow to figure out this next week!
12-10-2010, 23:49
nontactical

This is not the first twin-tuber to double fire under heavy recoil loads. This happened to me with a Browning and my father with an SKB. In both cases, the company apologized profusely and paid for shipping in both directions for the repair. In the case of my father's SKB, they completely went through the gun and updated or replaced several parts at no charge.

Dude, don't give them your $1k+ gun back for free! Have it repaired at Cole's or Briley and then sell it.
12-11-2010, 03:02
Irving

Sorry to hear you got hurt by your gun. Yikes.
12-11-2010, 07:39
mx'r

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Originally Posted by nontactical

This is not the first twin-tuber to double fire under heavy recoil loads. This happened to me with a Browning and my father with an SKB. In both cases, the company apologized profusely and paid for shipping in both directions for the repair. In the case of my father's SKB, they completely went through the gun and updated or replaced several parts at no charge.

Dude, don't give them your $1k+ gun back for free! Have it repaired at Cole's or Briley and then sell it.

This is what pisses me off so much. Remington knows that there is a problem with these, but wont fix under warranty without receipt and bill of sale. Any chance someone would write me a receipt that owns a gun shop? I remember the shop in Conifer where I bought it, but they closed down a couple of years ago.
12-11-2010, 10:08
BPTactical

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Originally Posted by mx'r

This is what pisses me off so much. Remington knows that there is a problem with these, but wont fix under warranty without receipt and bill of sale. Any chance someone would write me a receipt that owns a gun shop? I remember the shop in Conifer where I bought it, but they closed down a couple of years ago.

I don't think this plan would be the way to go. They are going to know what wholesaler bought it and when. Your date of sale would have to be after that date.
A better angle- tell them you received it as a gift and therefore have no access to a receipt
as the party that gifted it to you is A-deceased or B-out of the country.
You could advise them what shop it was purchased it from is now closed and you cannot get a copy of a receipt.

This is BS that Remington is treating product deficiency issues like this. Even lowly Century treats its customers better.
This is also a major part of the reason that I personally won't own a Remington not to mention just a substandard product. You should be able to reasonably expect scope mount hole to be aligned and tapped correctly when you spend just south of 1K for a rifle.
12-11-2010, 10:55
mx'r

Good idea BP, thanks. It is indeed BS. ALL the other major manufacturers bend over backwards to help in most any situation. I'm done with Remington. I even told the guy that my brother owns/operates a large gun shop and that every weapon I use while hunting in a Remington. His reply is " yes sir, we do make quality hunting products".. WTF? If I can cause them to lose ONE sale, I win. I'm sure the cost of the repair with shipping would cost less than $75..

Is this issue something that you could take a look at in your shop?
If I can get it fixed cheap, I might just re-finish the gun and remove remingtons name and keep using it. When someone asks me what it is I'll tell them it's a custom.
12-11-2010, 12:07
ray1970

Not trying to rain on your parade or ruin your rant, and definitely not trying to defend Remington... but... is this actually something Remington built or is it one of their Russian imports?

Just curious mostly. Thanks.
12-11-2010, 13:18
BPTactical

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Originally Posted by mx'r

Good idea BP, thanks. It is indeed BS. ALL the other major manufacturers bend over backwards to help in most any situation. I'm done with Remington. I even told the guy that my brother owns/operates a large gun shop and that every weapon I use while hunting in a Remington. His reply is " yes sir, we do make quality hunting products".. WTF? If I can cause them to lose ONE sale, I win. I'm sure the cost of the repair with shipping would cost less than $75..

Is this issue something that you could take a look at in your shop?
If I can get it fixed cheap, I might just re-finish the gun and remove remingtons name and keep using it. When someone asks me what it is I'll tell them it's a custom.

I would be happy to take a look at it-I will see what I can find out as far as this particular issue.
PM me when you get a chance.
IIRC- removing the manufactures name would be a bad thing. 1- loss of value 2- I believe according to BATF regs the Manufacturer/Importer name must be indelibly marked on the receiver
12-11-2010, 19:22
Colorado Osprey

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Originally Posted by ray1970

Not trying to rain on your parade or ruin your rant, and definitely not trying to defend Remington... but... is this actually something Remington built or is it one of their Russian imports?

Just curious mostly. Thanks.

I'd trust the Russian Import more... I have a few of them with many thousands of rounds from each. They were purchased before Remington stated to relabel them and they were the Baikal brand.
12-11-2010, 21:06
ray1970

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Originally Posted by Colorado Osprey

I'd trust the Russian Import more... I have a few of them with many thousands of rounds from each. They were purchased before Remington stated to relabel them and they were the Baikal brand.

That was kind of where I was going with my questioning. Those Baikals are built like tanks. Not sure about anything Remington might have built themselves recently.
12-11-2010, 22:16
brokenscout

Baikals

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Originally Posted by ray1970

That was kind of where I was going with my questioning. Those Baikals are built like tanks. Not sure about anything Remington might have built themselves recently.

My friend just showed me his, 1 box of shells through it and the stock split in half.:)[ROFL1]

Screw Remington *Rant*

Screw Remington Rant