Ruger Target Grey Stainless M77 Frontier rifle
Seems like I'm perpetually searching for a "handy" little rifle / carbine that I can shoot a lot. I played with a friends M1 Carbine a while back and thought it was really fun (although not a huge fan of the sights or the trigger).
I spent a little time looking for a Marlin 1894CBC in .38 Special, but they're hard to come by. And it'd be another caliber to reload.
Stumbled across this Olympic K9GL, which is a darned near PERFECT plinker out to ~150yds. Except at 9.33lbs, it really is heavy.
My new SDI SR-15 (essentially a CAV-15 Trooper) isn't too far off the mark, except those little .223 holes are awfully hard to see on paper, and it just punches right through clay pigeons. .223 also has a tendency to "eat" my steel targets at <100yds.
With a 2.5x "scout" scope, I'd think with this I would be able to "if I can see it, I can hit it" -- and know I hit it (out to maybe 300yds). I'd prefer it in .243, but that blows the "cheap factory ammo" factor, so it would have to be .308.
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Re: Ruger Target Grey Stainless M77 Frontier rifle
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Originally Posted by michael_aos
I'd prefer it in .243, but that blows the "cheap factory ammo" factor, so it would have to be .308.
But you own a reloader... What does caliber matter?
A 308 will kick a lot more than a 243.
Both calibers will poke holes through clay birds. Its a function of velocity more than anything. Same with chipping steel targets.
I bet if you take all that weaver rail, flashlight ninja stuff off your AR in 9x19, you could easily get it around 7 pounds.
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Originally Posted by Tom Freeman
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Originally Posted by michael_aos
I'd prefer it in .243, but that blows the "cheap factory ammo" factor, so it would have to be .308.
But you own a reloader... What does caliber matter?
A 308 will kick a lot more than a 243.
I can buy Wolf or even Lake City .308 for less $$$ than I can load .260.
My .260's (AR-10 / 700P) are capable of AMAZING groups at long distances, but at $.50/pop I'm not so inclined to just "screw around" with them.
Mike
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Originally Posted by Tom Freeman
Both calibers will poke holes through clay birds. Its a function of velocity more than anything. Same with chipping steel targets.
I was thinking maybe there'd be enough velocity-loss with the 16.5" bbl in .308 that it wouldn't be so tough on the targets.
I'll take a look at that Hertenberger 9mm +P+ SMG ammo again. Might be just the ticket in this K9GL.
Mike
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Originally Posted by Tom Freeman
A 308 will kick a lot more than a 243.
Yeah, that concerns me too. An accurate, lightweight 7.62x39 would probably suit me better.
I probably won't wind up buying yet another rifle. Just cut that Olympic K9GL down a little, shave off some weight and shoot it another year. I bought 2K of that Winchester 9mm when it was on-sale at Garts. Lots of plinking potential there!
Mike
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Originally Posted by Tom Freeman
But you own a reloader... What does caliber matter?
A 308 will kick a lot more than a 243.
1:9" twist means no heavy match bullets.
I quick scan of .243 bullets @ MidwayUSA does reveal a few choices <$.10. Those 123gr Scenar were $.156 + shipping.
Maybe $.08 worth of Varget and Remington .243 brass....
gr qty each
Remington 100 2000 $0.067
Remington 100 1000 $0.068
Remington 100 500 $0.069
Remington 80 2000 $0.070
Remington 80 1000 $0.071
Remington 80 500 $0.073
Remington 100 100 $0.073
Winchester 80 2000 $0.076
Winchester 80 1000 $0.078
Winchester 80 500 $0.082
Remington 80 100 $0.084
Speer 70 5000 $0.085
Winchester 80 100 $0.086
Hornady 75 100 $0.094
Speer 70 750 $0.094
Remington 80 2000 $0.094
Speer 70 2000 $0.095
Speer 80 2000 $0.095
Remington 80 1000 $0.097
Speer 80 4300 $0.098
Remington 80 500 $0.100
Speer 100 3500 $0.100
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Originally Posted by Tom Freeman
I bet if you take all that weaver rail, flashlight ninja stuff off your AR in 9x19, you could easily get it around 7 pounds.
I'm at 9.20lbs with the GG&G sling-thing, Magpul stock, Trijicon Accupoint, Armalite 1pc mount. PRI BUIS and cheap vertical forend. 8.02lbs without the scope (BUIS only).
It really is a SWEEEEEET shooter. Grace always complains that she "doesn't like shooting long-guns", but she's always grinning ear-to-ear after she empties a magazine.
Mike
