Looking to get a rem 700 action trued, bbl chambered and threaded. Anyone know of any good smiths here is CO for this work?
If not its probably going to LA precision, but I prefer to keep it local.
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Looking to get a rem 700 action trued, bbl chambered and threaded. Anyone know of any good smiths here is CO for this work?
If not its probably going to LA precision, but I prefer to keep it local.
What caliber?Quote:
Originally Posted by The1andOnlyKC
Mine will be goingo to TJ's in Aurora. I havent dealt with them yet, but I know several people who have, and I only hear positives.
www.tjsgunsmithing.net
I hear that Big Horn Actions (in Brighton) does good work as well.
I'd trust either of them with my equipment.
2nd TJ's Gunsmithing in Aurora. They are working over a 700 for me right now - 308 to a 260 Rem.
Thats where I would take my $$$.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrfish83
30. Going to build a 308 Win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoser
I was looking into TJ's they were one of my choices but couldnt find anyone that has dealt with them or heard one or the other.
Havent heard of Big Horn, I will have to check them out they are close to home too.
I would be glad to help you out but to be honest with you I am not a bolt gun guy to that degree. There are folks whose entire Smithing business is dedicated to precision rifles. They are worth every penny.
Westwind Rifles in Erie comes to mind. Long turnaround but nationally renowned work. I have seen some of his work and it is first rate.
Caleb Rutledge in Thornton is another one. I have not seen his work but I have heard good things of him.
Bighorn is first rate.
Not to disrupt or cause conflict in this thread but Westwind Rifles is a joke. He looked over my Garand and did a horrible job. Also did work to it I specifically said I did not want done. The bedding job was something I could have done myself, and he re-crowned the barrel against my wishes and made it look like crap (it's off center too). I would think he would have had the proper M1 Garand crowning tool. It needs a new barrel, plain and simple. And now needs a new stock, birch stocks are hard to find.
Here are some pictures of his work:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ithwork003.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ithwork002.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ithwork001.jpg
The bedding started to come off the first time I shot it.
Now back on topic, I don't really know who would be a good gunsmith to do the work as I really have no personal experience with ones that do that sort of work. I know it can get pretty expensive though.
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Originally Posted by jmg8550
WOW
[Bang]
That is really out of character for him. I have seen a couple of his rifles and the work was first class. I know he has a good following.
Bedding looks like hell- do you know if it was pressure bedded?
I will toss up some pics of a good bedding job later.
I wonder if a "helper" did the work?
No more referrals to WWR from me.
Bighorn
They just opened a GS shop. I know they do good work.
http://www.trinidadstate.edu/index.p...am-opens-doors
Rich Reiley of HTCustoms in Colorado Springs trued my 700 action and chambered a Kreiger barrel in 6.5 Creedmoor. He also tuned my Timney trigger to a sweet 18 ounces. Very happy with the rifle/accuracy.
http://htcustoms.com/index.php
I didn't know there was more than one type of beding job. It looks like he applied the compound, and then put the reciever and barrrel into the stock, and let it cure. I guess that would be a pressure bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
You have a couple of different types for Garands and M1A's.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmg8550
1- "Arsenal" bed. Mainly done to restore the compression fit on used stocks that don't have the tension on the trigger guard anymore for good lockup. Just "pads" on the top and bottom of the stock. This appears to be what you have with the addition of the trigger plate pad..
2- "National Match" bed. Same pads bedded with the addition of the recoil surfaces of the stock and trigger plate pad. Better, but still can be improved on.
3- "Improved National Match" bed. Same as above but a fixture is used to exert pressure on the receiver and the front HG is in place and locked to the stock. This "pre-loads" the barrel in tension to increase mechanical repeatability and reduce zero wander.
4- "National Match Pillar" bed. Same as above but all bedded areas are tied together including the walls of the stock. Used on rifles that will rarely be pulled from the stock. A solid bed is established on all bearing surfaces with a "pillar" built from receiver heel down to the trigger plate. Rock solid but a ton of work. If Devcon Steel bed is used it adds a good bit of weight.
I'll give TJ's a plug as well. I've used them on a number of my pistols and rifles.
Kelly's Sports is another solid gunsmith in Parker, CO. (303) 840-2372.
He did some work on my Savage LE rifle in 308 that was top notch.
They've done a couple of jobs for me and I am happy with them. I'd recommend them. Of course, the fact that they're less than a half mile from work and about 25 meters from the motorcycle parts and service store doesn't hurt either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pike10
i find it very odd he would do something like that too very out of character. As he has work on many of my Match rifles i have nothing but good things to say. i would be very curious if a helper did it as well! mistakes do happen though no one is perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
coop
Ok, maybe a helper did do the work, that still doesn't justify the fact that he let this garbage out the door. Helper or not, his name is on the work. Maybe Dave Sullivan shouldn't have charged me for this kind of work. Or offered to make it right. He did neither. I am so disgusted with it, I bought a new Criterion barrel just so I don't have to look at the crown job anymore.
I could not agree more JMG- as the proprietor of the business he is ultimately responsible for what leaves his shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmg8550
You are only as good as the work that leaves your hands.
Did you bring your dissatisfaction to their attention and ask for the work to be fixed?Quote:
Originally Posted by jmg8550
I did not bring my dissatisfaction to Dave, as he was in no mood to talk. I didn't even see the bedding job till I got home. And as far as the crown, what would you suggest would have been a good way to fix it? Have him cut the barrel down even more? Sometimes it is just better to leave it alone and never do business with people like that. He should have never let that type of work go out the door in the first place.
I wouldn't be slagging him and his business by name on a public forum unless I tried to address it with him first. But that's me.
Greg Tannel of Gre-Tan rifles would top my list. Greg is an awesome smith and a hell of a nice guy. He makes the jigs that a lot of other smiths use. Big Horn Actions would be next on my list.
Here is a guy in Rifle, Co that I have heard about in Indiana. I have talked with him, however I ended up using a local gunsmith.
http://www.gtrtooling.com/main.jsf
The first time I had an action worked over it would have been cheaper to buy a custom action by the time I had the action plus paying for the work. For the second rifle I found a group buy for the action.
Ya that is Greg Tannel of Gre-Tan Rifles. He used to live down the road from me till he moved up to Rifle. Hell of a nice guy and he builds absolute hammers!Quote:
Originally Posted by c3d4b2
Mark Chanlynn at BigHorn Arms. Get him to make one of his barrels for you too. Scary accurate.
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Originally Posted by Pike10
Here's the update on my build. I got my rifle back a few weeks ago from TJ's. I originally had a stock Rem 700 Varmint 308. I bought all my parts and took it in to save time - a Krieger 6.5 mm blank, McMillian stock, Jewell trigger, Badger brake and recoil lug. They trued the action, lapped the lugs, reamed the chamber, fit the barrel, threaded for a brake, bed the action and duracoated barrel and action.
When I ladder tested my loads for the factory 308 at 100 yds I had very clear dispersion in the groups, 3/4" to 2.5", and a very clear direction on which way to proceed with my loads. When I ladder tested the new 260? I worked up from 5 separate powder volumes from 42 to 43 gr of H4350, under 142 smk's. All 5 grouped under 1", between 1" and little under 1/2". So, I settled toward the higher velocity. I got a nice day at BLGC (no wind) and when I did my part it group at 1 3/4" at 600 (witness by another member on this forum) - that is just under 1/3 MOA by my math.
Made my first trip to the Sporting Rifle Match this last weekend and had the opportunity to take a poke at 1700 yds (1680 to 1700 depending on who's range finder you want to believe). Took 5 shots to get the wind call right and rang the plate twice.
When I'm ready for another build or needing a new tube put on - their the only ones I'll go to. As you see above there are some excellent recommendations for gunsmiths - TJ's is definately one of them - Tim and Fritz do great work.
Years back when I lived in Englewood, I had a smith by the name of Gary Alvey G-G Machine/ marksmanarms(Grand Junction) build me a 308 on a hart barrel, trued 700 action, jewel trigger, hs stock..he was easy to work with even when there was a change in plans along the way. the end result was a real tack driver and the action was as smooth as glass. If you can find him he will do you right...
Bart at Bass Pro--he used to be the man at Gunworks--does great work and is good people.
All the parts are ordered and should be here by the end of the week.
Got a McMillan A-5 and Shillen coming.
Kelley Sport (John) does great work. He is a very good friend (semper fi) and is the only person I trust.
Good info im waiting on stiller to finish up their next run of tac 338 actions for a lapua build, looking to have someone local to thread and chamber the barrel