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I recently bought a gun from an out of state dealer (Bud's Gunshop in Lexington Ky) Their prices with free shipping beat everyone's by 150 dollars I had it shipped to Grandpa's . When I went in to pick it up I was informed that the transfer fee would be fifty dollars because it was from Bud's. The owner is P.O. ed at Buds because he can't sell guns for what they do.
Just a heads up if anyone is thinking of doing transfers with Grandpa's in Longmont. He has lost any future business with Me.
Wow that's bullshit...
I would go to their website, print out the page for transfers where it clearly states that they charge $35 for them, and demand that they refund the difference. That is complete BS that they would have a special charge for guns coming from Bud's!!! Perhaps they should post that on the website and in their store. I've made a couple purchases from them, and I've never been overly impressed with their customer service, but I wouldn't have said that it was bad either, but this is not right. It's like they knew they had you by the ____ and decided to stick it to you because they feel they can't compete with a company that has clearly decided to go with the "sell a lot at a small margin" vs Grandpa's trying to get as much as they can on each sale. [Rant1]
Edit: They do have a contact email on their website of rodtwobears@aol.com if anyone wants to voice their displeasure with what they did to wulf11acr.
I'd call and let Bud's know about this.
a brick thru their window should even things out
yeah, as much as I understand local guys upset about online sales, that's just bad business practice. Bullshit...
rod two bears.
I wonder if he's an indian or a ward churchill.
Message sent. Lets everyone contact them and flex some internet muscle on this!! [Beer]
This is a great idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan0269
You still saved $135. Chalk it up to experience and don't use them again.
Grandpa needs to make right on this.
I don't know what it is, but it seems to me that gun store owners are disproportionately affected by this bizarre sense of entitlement to full MSRP and non-acceptance of the changing face and nature of business. It leads to this kind of utterly bizarre, unjust, and unacceptable behavior.
It really doesn't make any sense at all to try "punishing" the customer for his anger at another seller.
I hope you can convince them of the error in their ways. Otherwise, I'm in on an Anonymous-style behavior correction campaign.
Good luck.
Pay it all, print out the prices, then take the receipt then file a small claims case. File a complaint with the BBB
A day in court defending corrupt business practices will cost him more than the amount he is charging you.
When I was living in Longmont, I wanted to transfer a first transfer.
Granpa's pawn and guns were my first choice, but they were being a jerkoff.
So, I went online. Found out there is a place called C&C coins across the street that does FFL transfer.
After that, i did about at least 15-20 transfer w/ C&C coins. Sadly, they do not do transfer anymore. They are focused on Au and precious metals.
I would definitely write and tell others about Granpa's pawn and guns.
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Originally Posted by alan0269
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Originally Posted by Elhuero
All over $15, really? I know it is more the point of the matter than the money but my time is worth way more than that. All I would do is inform Bud's and post on other forums like you have here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Byte Stryke
And whether he cares or not, think about how much business he won't get from the people on this board. The most expensive $25 business decision he ever made.Quote:
Originally Posted by newracer
email sent
well see it would be the $15 + lost wages, Legal and filing fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by newracer
a BBB Smear is pretty bad as well.
I am not sure if you could sue for lost wages, legal and filing fees probably but I am not sure. BBB is a joke, basically all you have to do is pay them money and they will say you are a good business. More harm can be done on the internet as he is doing now. Plus winning a judgment and collecting are two totally different things. Again it's $15, what less than 5% of the cost?
I agree with this. In the past they were great at getting results and businesses feared them. Now I do feel they have some way out of a bad report . . . that and people might care a little less these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by newracer
If he was listed as one of the "preferred" transfers then I would complain to buds as well.
My last pistol came from buds because they were a little cheaper than others but they had what I wanted and nobody in the state had one. I also got free shipping on mine.
Not worth the effort for 15 dollars , I just posted as a heads up and I wont do business with them again. There are plenty of reputable dealers and FFL holders around. What go around comes around!! Thanks for the support.
William
I'd for sure use the power of the interwebs.. the BBB isn't really that effective..
I'd let Bud's know for sure, specially the 'It's from Bud's' part. Post up on every forum you know of that is local to the state.
Word of mouth certainly does more damage. I'd also see what rules are regarding a transfer fee, if there is a max that can be charged.
Grandpa's is on Bud's FFL list for Colorado
Then the best and easiest thing we can do is tell Granpa how we feel and the OP should tell Buds what Granpas is doing. Pressure from both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by StagLefty
Even if Granpas wasn't playing games, $35 is a pretty steep transfer fee anyway. Most home based, non storefront FFLs are still charging under $20 . . . at least as of last year.
well hell, this time its 15
Next time its Only 20
after that its Only 50
Hell, why give a f*ck at all, really.
Its only Money
Hell why even tell us about it if its not that big of a deal...
Because he's f*cking you and when you leave he will laugh about it and the f*ck someone else.
I Don't know about you, but I call it principle.
F- Grandpa's! If he has a personal problem with Buds he should deal with it and not take it out on those that found the deal!! And those of us that need the savings!! $$$$$$$$$$$$ [Beer]
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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke
X1,000 Good post
While I don't agree with any brick throwing or anything, I would at least start with an e-mail, and possibly a link to this thread, letting him know how many potential customers he lost, it is then his choice to make it right, and if he does, you'd be glad to post an update for us, so that we know he's a decent guy after all.
I think it's totally worth the time, just out of principle. We can't let businesses do this and get away with it, and +1 with what Byte said.
That's how the government has screwed us so many times too.
I think that experience is total BS. I've been in Grandpas quite a few times and it always appeared that they had interesting and diverse stock- but that doesn't beat this crap. Even over a measly $15. Not likely I'll ever go in there again. They are off of my list.
FYI, All The prices I saw on Bud's gun shop are the same prices at Green Mtn Guns.
[Swim]
Well I will take my gun transfers else were from now own, and otc gun purchases . If they can not honor their own listed price of 35.00 who knows what the daily price will be ?
GMG is really hard to beat locally for pricing, and like you said, the prices are comparable, some are even cheaper at GMG. I recently purchased a Springfield Loaded, from them for $709 +tax, Bud's lists the same pistol for $757, and that was the last in stock price. By the way, if you go to Green Mountain, ask for Merv, he's a good guy. Sorry for the derailQuote:
Originally Posted by Sixgun
i have been chcking prices at bud's against joe's shop, denver guns and ammo on west coal mine in lakewood
joes has buds beat on every handgun i am interested in. by 40-50 bucks
by the way Joe, i am still looking for that lcp or bg 380,
I know them all, There is a guy who retired from my work,(Ronnie) That works there. I like Merv best. [Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
Maybe that's why I get so pissed at people trying to sell used guns for more then they sell new ones for.
my suggestion was not literal, it's a saying I frequently use.Quote:
Originally Posted by newracer
but to answer your question......
principle.
whether by one dollar or a thousand dollars, fucked over is still fucked over.
if the guy has a listed price for transfers, then suddenly that price goes up $X for Y reason, that's bait and switch.
bait and switch is illegal.
FYI ...Green mtn guns had a LCP 380 for $289...Quote:
Originally Posted by rockhound
I know it's the principle of it and I agree soemthing should be done. Now that the bill has been paid, to me it is a waste of time to go back down there and demand my $15. Even more asinine to take it small claims court. I would simple send an email to the shop stating the problem and inform them I would never shop there again and make sure everybody knows of their practices. Then send another to Bud's letting them know of the situation and to remove them from the approved FFL list.
What really should have been done is confront him about it when the firearm was picked up, that was the time to dispute the fee.
I sent him an eMail.
Let's everyone call them (303) 772-7952 and let them know that none of us will ever be buying anything from them until they sort this out and refund our CO-AR15 brother's money.
From their website:
Assholes!!Quote:
We are a Federally Licensed Firearms Dealer, and we can receive most guns into our store that are purchased on line, purchased from a manufacturer, or needing to be transferred from out-of-state or out-of-the area:
Charge for firearms received: $35 per firearm, if shipped from a FFL dealer.
I will be calling first thing in the morning and then I will have all my employees call during the day, which yes will cost me more than $15 but I can't stand that shit.
Cameron
I'll call them. that is BS they pulled that one.
lets Buds know as well. maybe they won't deal with them any more.