Looking for justification...

I finally got employed, and while reading the employee manual, came across this: "Firearms, weapons, and other dangerous or hazardous devices or substances are prohibited from (place) unless contrary to state law."

Is there any way to bend this so that I can carry there, deeply concealed of course, with a permit, and still be under the rules? I was thinking the phrase "unless contrary to state law." but am open to other suggestions.

The reason I say contrary to state law is because the Constitutional law does specify that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be questioned...but does not construe the right to conceal arms.

With a permit, it is allowable to carry in most places, but the law states that private property can ban if it wants.

Any ideas of loopholes?

No loop holes. DO NOT ASK!
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Every employee handbook says that. Just don't get caught.

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No loop holes. DO NOT ASK!
DO NOT ASK!
DO NOT ASK!
DO NOT ASK!

Every employee handbook says that. Just don't get caught.

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Only you can decide if you will risk employment to have protection...concealed means concealed I will leave it at that.

As long as it is not a school or government building it is a "rule" and not a law. They can fire you for breaking a rule if you get caught. If it is a job where, realistically, it is unlikely you'll ever need to actually use a gun, just get something really small and easy to conceal, perhaps a NAA mini, maybe in an ankle rig. If, however, you are working as a cashier in a convenience store or driving a cab, you may want to go with an LCP in a pocket holster.

State Constitutional 2A rights and "shall not be questioned" Or however you are quoting it applies to government upon the citizenry. A private business can make whatever rules it wants for it's employee's if it is not violating some kind of regulatory law (discrimination, OSHA, etc). So it's your choice if you want to carry, but you can expect to be fired if caught. Like others have said depending where it is, unless you can afford to lose the job, just leaver it secured in your vehicle. I even work somewhere at elevated risk (but still remote over all) for an armed intruder and I still along with most of the other employee's have our armory in the parking lot.

From the Colorado state constitution
ARTICLE II
Bill of Rights
In order to assert our rights, acknowledge our duties, and proclaim the principles upon which our government is founded, we declare:
Section 13. Right to bear arms. The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.

For what it's worth.

Not worth the fight with your job, IMO. Same thing at my job...

My job is the same way, no CCW. We have even taken it a step further and have fired employees for having firearms in their vehicles since we have to park in designated parking lots on the employers property.

Randy

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My job is the same way, no CCW. We have even taken it a step further and have fired employees for having firearms in their vehicles since we have to park in designated parking lots on the employers property.

Randy

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That's where I'd sue the employer if I got robbed or threatened on my commute to or from work... I can understand no guns and all that, but denying you the right to be able to defend yourself while not on the clock? That's just wrong.

I own a business and encourage my employees who have CCW to carry. Even paid for the class for some of them. It's like having free security to me.

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I own a business and encourage my employees who have CCW to carry. Even paid for the class for some of them. It's like having free security to me.

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What kind of business, and are you hiring?

It seems to me, if you know your employees and trust them with the survival of your business, allowing them to carry concealed would be a natural thing. I realize that everyone is different and for a private business, the owner should have the final word.

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I own a business and encourage my employees who have CCW to carry. Even paid for the class for some of them. It's like having free security to me.

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What kind of business, and are you hiring?

It seems to me, if you know your employees and trust them with the survival of your business, allowing them to carry concealed would be a natural thing. I realize that everyone is different and for a private business, the owner should have the final word.

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+1, are you hiring?! I'm in need of finding something that brings in more than I'm currently making. Plus your agreeability on the subject of ccw is attractive. [Beer]

I have a warehouse/retail used furniture store. I do have an open position, feel free to PM me. I'm looking for a warehouse technician but it may not be an increase over what you do now to be totally honest. PM me any time. Thanks!

The place I work has a strict "no weapons" policy and in my opinion it sucks for our drivers, myself included.
We work nights delivering goods to restaurants and such.

Got the dark alley downtown, dead of night in the mountains blues.[Censor]