Watching this on the History channel made in 2010.
Funny how much this resembles the current admin and how they got there.
And just wondering why they picked this time to show it.
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Watching this on the History channel made in 2010.
Funny how much this resembles the current admin and how they got there.
And just wondering why they picked this time to show it.
Kristall-Nacht kommt sofort.
I'm not walking into this exaggeration. The left said the exact same thing about the Bush Presidency. I actually got out of my car once in Idaho Springs a number of years back and tore down a picture of George Bush with a little Hitler moustache. Come on guys.
One word: propaganda. Hitler is well known bad guy from history, because he lost his war and much about what he did has been documented and published.
If they would compare to a worse bad guy, they would compare (for example) to Stalin.
But, who knows Stalin ? No one here, so it is not very good propaganda compared to Hitler.
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Originally Posted by Hannu
me...
Not talking about Hitler and how bad he was, but how the masses were fooled into believing he was their savior and leader and how BO has dupoed the masses into electing him and how nothing has come out of it except his complete neglect for the Constitution and the American People.
And his narcisstic ways of doing what he wants with disregard to what he should do.
Didn't know Hannu , and Byte were so old. LOL
Really Byte? You can't spit that out and then not back it up. No diff than if say.... I said that I "knew" Eisenhower. It's certainly possible, but just as certainly unlikely. I don't think you're that old pal.
We watched the same show a couple of weeks ago. My kids and I discussed the similarities with this Administration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
A virtual unknown rising to power quickly.
Promise of change.
Arrogance and narcissism.
"Under the radar" dealing and regulation.
Turning on the Jews.
Time magazine "Man of the year."
"Socialism"
The similarities are chilling.
Those that do not subscribe to history are destined to repeat it. Scary freakin thought........
I have two engineers at work that are former Eastern Bloc residents -Polish and Ukrainian. When I have discussed our recent political environment with them they both say the same thing: "You Americans don't see it, you are going in the same direction from the lands we left. Do not let this happen to America"
Make a helluva campaign slogan eh?
Come on, Everyone is "Stalin" here lets move on. [Tooth]Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannu
I know Jack! Jack Schitt!! Hes a great guy!![ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by sneakerd
Yeah- I got way too serious in the face of humor.
Happy place!! Guns. ammo, fishing, nudey girls! etc. etc. [Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by sneakerd
So, who gets to play the Jews in this production of the Play? Frankly, we're tired of being the Chosen People...[ROFL1]
i certianly wouldn't go too far and compare obama to hitler, but the similarities of the PEOPLE (as in, the masses) are quite shocking. but really the same can be said for any world leader that has had a quick rise to power. it is just sort of shocking to see the things people will believe and the accountability they refuse to make people have. i do think that obama represents a serious threat to the well being of the united states, but nothing in the same way of hitler. i think you have to be blind to not see the constitution literally being changed before our eyes (or dismissed at least), it really comes down to whether you think its a good or bad thing. to argue it isn't happening is being intellectually dishonest. at any rate, the story of hitler and nazi germany will forever be a fascinating one in my mind. i like how george lucas made star wars eerily similar to world war 2
I find it interesting the similarities of Hitler, and Obama. Both are pure blood socialists, and both achieved power via legal means, and filling their respective countrymen full of BS. Hitler needed a scapegoat to blame for the poor economic conditions in Germany, he picked the jews, among some others. Obama is blaming the tea party as we speak, and conservatives for leading the country into the abyss we are in, and keeping us there. I'm not willing to say he is going to round us up and put us in ghettos, but to ignore him is dangerous, and that is what made Hitler so powerful. If Obama is defeated in 2012, god willing, the question is, will he surrender his power following a tradition over 200 years old, or will he do as he has done so far, and break tradition, and the constitutional law? I think as long as we push to get a stronger foothold in congress, any attempt by him to keep power will be blocked. If the socialists gain a stronger foothold of congress, expect trouble of some kind.
There's one big flaw with your theory, Hitler rebuilt the German economy. Obama has well, poured gasoline over our torching economy and sewn salt into the ground.[LOL]
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Originally Posted by sneakerd
Nope... I grew up going to Off-Base German Schools as well as DODs schools.
I learned European history and American History in a way that most kids have not even considered possible.
Yeah, that's really not the ONLY flaw in his theory :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Uberjager
DSB Outdoors, please put 3 or 4 or 5 pukers up here for me- I'm begging you.............................
I grew up firmly believing that it is not enough to simply accept that another form of government is bad "Because". To understand the pros and cons of Stalin is to have a deeper appreciation of your system of government.
"Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." - JOHN F. KENNEDY
In Obama's eyes, he has rebuilt the economy. He bought into the banking industry, and auto industry, and is helping keep the money flowing to china! Hitler rebuilt the economy as a war machine for his doing, using some help at home, and some slave labor from abroad.
I don't think that is a Kennedy quote...Quote:
Originally Posted by Byte Stryke
This thread is going to get locked if we keep bad mouthing members of the Gubenment.[Flower]
How about this one,Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
Reagan v. Hitler
Obama - Senator, Reagan - Governor , Hitler - Chancelor - All Known
Promise of Change , yep, across the board
arrogance and narcissism, you better believe it, have to be to be President.
Under the radar dealing, yep, all of them again. No need to explain further, this is part of the game.
Now to get interesting-
Turning on the Jews - Iran Contra, sold arms to Iran, I would say that was no help the the Jews, by the way, Israel didn't attend his funeral formally.
Reagan made Time man of the Year in '81!
Socialism, a stretch to be sure of them, but the Government grew tremendously under his presidency, especially the military industrial complex...Familiar
Don't forget, as of now, only Hitler and Reagan took the guns of the people, in any way. For all the bluster, Obama hasn't touched them, Reagan stopped machine gun production, and a few other things. In the Firearm Owners Protection Act no less!
On to that Reagan's visit to Bitburg and calling the SS dead "victims"
AND Hitler and Reagan were artists! one may be paint and the other acting, but artist none the less!
Oh, and Reagan and Hitler really hated communists!
And only Reagan and Hitler served in the Military, but Hitler got the Iron Cross, Reagan only made some movies...Propaganda movies, no less
Its easy to make the comparisons between anyone in power.
Hitler comparisons are only hyperbole, and offensive hyperbole at that. It advances your cause in no way, and is very offensive to a lot of people. Not just the POTUS, but all the people who suffered and died under Hitler, and those who fought to stop him. You may not like Obama, fine, but Hitler, that is nonsense.
You know, similarities or not I cannot say that those traits and actions mean the same outcome is in our future - which sort of debunks the whole reason for the comparison in the first place.
It's easy to make these kinds of comparisons if you really look and, most importantly, really want for these comparisons to be true. Just take a look at the disturbing comparisons between Kennedy and Lincoln (i.e., Kennedy's assistant was named Lincoln and Lincoln's assistant named Kennedy - but this is a stretch since SO many people worked under these men) or all of the "prophesies" of Nostradamus.
I dislike Barry as much as the next extreme right wing nutbag and if I look closely enough I could probably find a dozen similarities between him and any villain in history because I want to find them.
So, is he like Hitler? In many ways. How about Stalin or Genghis Khan or Vlad the Impaler for that matter? Probably. Of course he is probably a lot like many heroes in history as well - if you look close enough and nitpick enough.
Ya'll have missed the whole point of the topic.
It's not barry in comparison to hitler, it's how the people are so stupid as to vote in a person on the belief he is the one to save them/the country.
It's about People and how easy they are sheeple.
preciselyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
Not too much of a shocker. You could rename that channel to the "Mostly Hitler, and sometimes other, History Network"Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
[Coffee]
If you follow the Good Shepherd, you have already admitted to being a sheep.
Sheep are useful. Being a sheep does not mean you are helpless, just that you are not in control of everything and that you need something or someone outside of yourself. Sort of like "No man is an island."
Think of the Fasces. Most people understand that "strength through unity" is not just a cliche, but represents common sense that was obvious to people thousands of years ago. Unity is not singularity, it just represents a common purpose. I don't agree with most politicians and their methods, however I believe most politicians, as most Americans, want a better country and world for them and their children. The differences are the methods they use to achieve those goals. At least We the People are still choosing our leaders.
What scares me more is when we collectively like a leader so much, or we desire what the leader offers, so much that we would give up the right to choose our leaders. An example in the US would be FDR's third term as POTUS. Some people are lured into voting for President Obama because of his promises. If FDR had lived, it appears that the American electorate would have given him a fourth term. 16 years as President is about as close to President for Life as America has ever come.
I remember how many people talked about President Clinton and how he could have been elected a third time if it wasn't for term limits. Some people, albeit a small fringe, talked about altering the rules to allow for a third term. That is when I begin getting concerned. America will survive even the worst leaders for eight years. People (even us sheep) do learn. We look at what our last leader did and usually decide to go the opposite way with our next leader. Look at the back and forth over the past 60 years. We also don't normally give both houses of Congress and the White House to the same party, and if we do, it isn't for long.
If this is an accident, then we are very lucky. If it isn't an accident, then as sheep go, we are collectively pretty smart. I'll take either lucky or smart. They are both pretty good, but personally, I believe we have a Good Shepherd, and His plan is greater than anything this President or any leader could do to or for us.
"But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing. It behooves you, therefore, to be watchful in your States as well as in the Federal Government." -- Andrew Jackson, Farewell Address, March 4, 1837
Funny. In our house, we always call the History Channel; the Hitler Channel. And I thought it was just us [ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by ghettodub
Huh? There's next to nothing on there outside of Pawn Stars and Ice Road Truckers.
Among the other "non-historical" stuff they put. Modern Marvels has some history to it, but Pawn Stars? Really? Dense people really care too much about what crap people hawk at pawn shops.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneakerd
Back to the topic at hand, I agree, people now (especially in '08 when this whole mess got out of control) are so easily seduced by "change." Well people were easily seduced by Adolf Hitler's call for "change" as well, and his promises to bring the German empire back to a position of strength. He may have slaughtered a lot of Jews in the process, and funny fact, some people didn't know that the Jews were being murdered, they thought their neighbors were being segregated and sent to "work" camps. Today, the mind of the collective idiots of America is being warped so badly that many can't see the truth in front of their eyes... some still support BO, even if he has not done much of anything he promised and the economy is nearing the point of no return. What does he intend to do when our debtors come collecting? Will we crumble like the Soviet Union and our Generals start selling off guns, tanks, helicopters, etc.? Or will we be able to turn this thing around and someday not have to worry about our grandchildren being forced into poverty because they have to pick up the tab that our leaders couldn't pay?
Yeah that.
Can we recover?
Hitler took from the rich to help SPREAD the wealth. The people fell for it and it ended up impoverishing the people.
I remember reading or hearing somewhere- Decline of the Roman Empire?
Something about the idea that a powerful society begins its' decline as soon as the people learn that they can vote themselves money and/or benefits. That's where we are. To me it has nothing to do with Hitler or Stalin or Hirohito or Mussolini. The Dems entire voting block is rooted in the fact that they are promised more money, more stuff and more benefits if they will vote/elect a Democrat.
Hitler rose to power based on a country that was reduced to rubble by the punitive damages and reparations payments in the Versailles Treaty. The economic hardship in Germany was really ridiculous resulting in a strong taste of bitterness and betrayal among the people and solidifying in Hitler. If the US stayed out of WWI as it should have done, Hitler’s Third Reich would have likely not happened as WWI would have ended in a stalemate. I don't blame the German people for wanting something better; the Versailles Treaty was complete BS. I guess if conditions are bad enough, you will believe anything.
Obama is a different kind of stupidity. Just critically reading the guy’s books, one would realize that he doesn’t like this country or the people who found it. Where Hitler was hyper nationalistic and aggrieved by how WWI Ended; Obama has absolutely no love whatsoever for this country. He will maneuver around and mock the system since he doesn’t believe in it. Obama wants to change the country to its very foundation; he was the wrong person for the job, period! As much as I hate Hillary, she was by far the better Democrat for the job. We live in a day of social engineering and social experimentation. Unfortunately, Obama is a social experiment gone wrong. The real sad part is that so much of the population doesn’t believe in rules or boundaries (such as the constitution); too many people in this country are willing to open the doors to experimentation. Personally, I believe those who founded this country that only through limits will my way of life be preserved.
At best, Obama is another Jimmy Carter; at worst he is an anti-American leader who took over the executive branch of our government. The thought of this guy in the White House makes me want to puke!
True statement!Quote:
Originally Posted by sneakerd
I'm not sure who the debt collectors will be, but I wouldn't want to be the country that decided to come calling inside the U.S. looking to repossess the property of the 2nd Infantry Division [ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
Generals in the U.S don't sell guns, tanks, helicopters, etc to make money. They sell contracts to high bidders in exchange for lucrative jobs when they retire. This is the American way and it seems to work much better than the former Soviet methods. In the former Soviet system, you had to control it before you could sell it and the fight for control left many former military officers dead.
IMO, whether we pay off our debts now or later, ultimately, I believe we will end up paying the tab in higher interest rates and a lower standard of living both for us and our children.
I've often wondered how it felt and looked to people in Britain when their status in the world declined. Maybe I am watching it happen. I'm not sure.
A moment ago you said it wasn't a Hitler/Obama comparison, but comparing how they came to office (which doesn't work either, as Hitler wasn't elected by deluded masses: he was appointed by a political class and his party never gained a majority in the few elections they took part in). Now you're back to the asinine personal comparisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
Yes, entitlement has sunk many world powers throughout history and I agree with your analysis 100%. I've said for years that the more entitlement that US citizens believe they have a right to then the faster our decline. In fact, the entitlement issues we have in this country have happened much faster than other civilizations that took thousands of years to decline.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneakerd
It's a wicked vicious circle, the people beg for more, the government gives more, the government now has the "right" to restrict rights in exchange for those entitlements, the people get pissed (and still ask for more) and revolt, then history starts to repeat. I love how so many people say "I want, I want" but get bent out of shape when taxes go up - or how people will beg for entitlements, get them and then the government now says "in exchange for this you now have to [insert revocation of privilege here]".
No once again it is the people allowing our government to do what they are doing. We are supposed to have the power not the government.
It could be anyone in office but the people ar letting government NOT by the people to dictate what is happening to America. It has been this way for many many years and we are getting worse. So I guess yes we are seeing the end of America.