Thief robs store with syringe filled with "AIDS-infected blood"

You guys hear about this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ted-blood.html

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Police are searching for a man they say robbed a cupcake store armed with a syringe which he said was filled with 'AIDS-infected blood'.

The robbery happened at Gigi’s Cupcakes in Denver after a man who had been pan-handling outside moments before entered and told the clerk he would 'stick' a customer with the needle if she didn't open the cash register.

The thief got away with $300.

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My question is, would you shoot?

I frequent that area fairly often for Moe's bagels and Yogurtland, it creeped me out.

Naw just stuck the needle up his ass.

I think that would fall under the lethal force law, yes i would no second thought about it.

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Originally Posted by DeusExMachina

You guys hear about this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ted-blood.html



My question is, would you shoot?

I frequent that area fairly often for Moe's bagels and Yogurtland, it creeped me out.

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now you asking if you would kill the guy or just wound him? i'd shoot in a lot of cases, but not to kill. shot to the pelvis just above the ding dong will drop anyone, period.

I would probably draw down on him...if he threatened myself or someone I care about, no question about two rounds in COM.

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Originally Posted by spyder

now you asking if you would kill the guy or just wound him? i'd shoot in a lot of cases, but not to kill. shot to the pelvis just above the ding dong will drop anyone, period.

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Here we go again...that's a good way to end up in jail even if it was justified.

If you think he wasn't a threat enough, you're going to be in shit.

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Originally Posted by DeusExMachina

Here we go again...that's a good way to end up in jail even if it was justified.

If you think he wasn't a threat enough, you're going to be in shit.

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i know, it would be better to kill someone than to injure them. i know how this country is.

and well it depends on the state also. some have laws in which if you hurt someone trying to defend yourself, they can't press charges on you, neither can their family.

What if he was threatening to stab your dog? What if he threatened to stab an illegal Mexican? What if he threatened to stab the Rare Earth Metal market bubble?

Too many alternatives. I'd just pull my shirt up over my head and hum Amazing Grace as loud as I could until the situation resolved itself.

I would draw and if he still came at me I'd fire, no question about it.
A syringe in itself can be a deadly weapon, and when loaded with a disease we aren't capable of curing it only adds to it.
I don't care if he's bluffing about it... a guy that comes up to me at the ATM at night and sticks two fingers in my back claiming to have a gun is going to get the same treatment as somebody that actually does have one.

ETA: Oh, and if I made the decision to fire, I would be firing into him till he hit the ground or my mag goes dry. None of this "a shot in the pelvis to stop him" pussy bullchit. You decide to use deadly force to stop a threat, you'd better make sure you're deadly in doing so. If the problem could be solved by less-than-lethal means, you shouldn't have fired your gun period.

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Originally Posted by Irving

What if he threatened to stab the Rare Earth Metal market bubble?

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You think there is a rare earth market bubble?

sorry could not resist.... interesting to me.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Too many alternatives. I'd just pull my shirt up over my head and hum Amazing Grace as loud as I could until the situation resolved itself.

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Has Box O' Truth tested this? How many water jugs did it go through?

[ROFL1]

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Originally Posted by dropped_71chevy

Has Box O' Truth tested this? How many water jugs did it go through?

[ROFL1]

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I've heard him sing...mirrors, water jugs...nothing is safe.

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Originally Posted by Irving

What if he was threatening to stab your dog?
Shoot if possible (early morning hours, dark, remote area, and so on). If I can't shoot, give him whatever he wanted, then once he gave me my dog, make him wish I did.
What if he threatened to stab an illegal Mexican?
Assuming I knew for an absolute fact they were an illegal... nothing.
What if he threatened to stab the Rare Earth Metal market bubble?
Nothing. Unless his syringe is made of Unobtanium, it cannot penetrate the bubble.
Too many alternatives. I'd just pull my shirt up over my head and hum Amazing Grace as loud as I could until the situation resolved itself.

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Originally Posted by nynco

You think there is a rare earth market bubble?

sorry could not resist.... interesting to me.

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Nope, it popped a few months ago. I bought my stock at $3.01 a share sometime in 2010. It immediately dropped to $1.00 a share. Over the course of the rest of 2010 and 2011, it shot up to $10.00 a share and I sold it at $9 a share. It has been hovering at $6.xx for a few months now.

AIDS Infected Blood: 0
Lead Infected Bullet: 1

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Originally Posted by Irving

Nope, it popped a few months ago. I bought my stock at $3.01 a share sometime in 2010. It immediately dropped to $1.00 a share. Over the course of the rest of 2010 and 2011, it shot up to $10.00 a share and I sold it at $9 a share. It has been hovering at $6.xx for a few months now.

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I kmow that you aren't talking about gold. Are you talking about Palladium (PAL)?

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Originally Posted by DeusExMachina

http://www.dailymail.co.uk

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Deus, do you often read your DENVER news from a UK website? [LOL]

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

AIDS Infected Blood: 0
Lead Infected Bullet: 1

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I like this answer best!

I would handle it the way we do in America these days.
RULES FOR CONFRONTING A THREAT WITH A SYRINGE:
1. Politely ask him to put a rubber on it first
2. Try to figure out what happened in his childhood to cause this
3. Request tax payer funds to do research on people who threaten other people with syringes that are full of AIDS infected blood
4. Hold Supreme Court hearings to label these people with some sort of mental disability/handicap and get them free food/medical benefits and be forced to interview them before anyone else for a job
5. If all that fails I would draw my weapon on paper and make sure he knew what the consequences were

If none of that worked or you run out of time, pull your weapon out.

Just trying to keep us all out of jail, consider this a public service announcement!

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Originally Posted by Irving

Nope, it popped a few months ago. I bought my stock at $3.01 a share sometime in 2010. It immediately dropped to $1.00 a share. Over the course of the rest of 2010 and 2011, it shot up to $10.00 a share and I sold it at $9 a share. It has been hovering at $6.xx for a few months now.

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Might be going up again...

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June 28, 2011
By now you may have seen the numerous articles and industry communications regarding how
the scarcity of Rare Earth oxides combined with the hyper-inflation of prices, is having a serious
adverse impact on the lighting industry. Since our May 23, 2011 price increase announcement,

China has dramatically reduced the amount of rare earth oxides available for export and the cost
continues to increase beyond our ability to compensate.
The lighting industry consumes less than 10% of the Chinese export quota for these oxides,
putting the lighting manufacturers at a competitive disadvantage as the supply of these materials
shrinks. Even when it is possible to obtain the oxides, the costs have continued to skyrocket in
recent weeks.

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Oxidized Minerals (Rare Earth Oxides), represent an important input towards producing energy
efficient fluorescent lamps. As a result of the escalating supply and demand pressures for REO’s ,
prices for these obscure elements (China supplies > 95%) have risen dramatically within the last 12
months and continue to show signs of continued escalation into the future.

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PS - I work in the lighting industry and we're looking at a likely 50% increase and in the cost of fluorescent lamps as well as shortages in the next 6 months.

What if the syringe didn't contain AIDS infected blood? Is that a gamble you really want to take? I'd put two in his chest, one in his head. I saw a viable threat to my life- granted not immediate but it would also be a severe life changing event if I was infected. I would find it nearly impossible to get married, have children, and enjoy life. Kill 'em all, let God sort them out... deviants I mean, the incurable career criminals that do this sick twisted fawking chit!

Ahhh, but what would Chuck Norris do,,,

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Originally Posted by Mtn.man

Ahhh, but what would Chuck Norris do,,,

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Nothing, Chuck Norris is immune to AIDS, however, AIDS is not immune to Chuck Norris.

Also, the hobo clearly had lethal intent, its not like he walked in and said he had a syringe full of "the cold!"

Credible threat = appropriate response. If I was convinced the guy posed a credible threat of "death or serious bodily harm", then I would do what was necessary to end the threat. A mentally unstable vagrant with a syringe full of God-knows-what would qualify, regardless of if that syringe contains tainted blood, drain cleaner, or Koolaid.

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Originally Posted by Ranger

Deus, do you often read your DENVER news from a UK website? [LOL]

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It has AIDS, crime and begging all rolled into one. If the guy was a confirmed illegal immigrant and paedophile and somehow they could work the death of Princess Diana into it, this would be a perfect storm of a story for the Daily Fail :D

IMO, a weapon is a weapon, and a deadly threat is a deadly threat. Gun, knife, club, syringe, no difference to me. I'd draw fully prepared to fire with safety off and laser on, but if there was enough space between us I'd likely hesitate a second to give him a chance to piss himself and hit the floor screaming. Any move or indication otherwise from him and it's on.

Doesn't matter if the syringe has AIDS in it, any more than it matters if a gun has ammo in it.

Just remember, to use deadly force you have to articulate a lesser degree of force would be inadequate and that you reasonably believed you were defending yourself or another from the imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury. Then of course, you will be second guessed by bleeding heart public defenders and judged by 12 of your peers that were too stupid to get out of jury duty. Makes a pretty good argument for being a fantastic witness unless you have no other option.

What would the cops do? A jury or investigative panel would probably be less likely to find fault with a cop shooting him. If I shot him, I'd be careful of the blood splatter, he might really have AIDS. Some libtard DA would prolly throw me under the bus...I'm gonna avoid cupcake shops for now! Stick to donut shops, much safer.

I'm not sure using the cops as a reference point is a good idea unless you are in public.

At my house, if someone breaks into my house, I'll very likely kill them. The cops on the other hand, would just surround the place and flush him out with dogs or something. Both are correct actions.

We just had a guy in the ER last night that was Hep C positive and spitting blood on people. When PD showed up, he cleared the room, stuck his gun in the guy's face, and told him if he spit again he would be down a face.

My supervisor and another co-worker had to be tested, and that guy tacked a few felonies onto his misdemeanor assault charge.

Did he stop spitting?

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

What would the cops do? A jury or investigative panel would probably be less likely to find fault with a cop shooting him. If I shot him, I'd be careful of the blood splatter, he might really have AIDS. Some libtard DA would prolly throw me under the bus...I'm gonna avoid cupcake shops for now! Stick to donut shops, much safer.

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A friend of mine in Detroit actually worked at donut shop, they had a sign that read: Warning, for the incredibly stupid criminals- the safe is on a time lock, we don't carry more than $100 in the drawer, and COPS FREQUENT HERE AT ALL HOURS.
It was a 24-hour donut shop. :Cool:

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Did he stop spitting?

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Oh yeah. After a good two hours of fighting he was a good little boy. That cop was dead serious too.