Does it really make much of a difference anymore?

Just a question, since my cousin, who you would think with all her life experience (being 44) would have a bit firmer grip on brainpower, made the comment that I should stop complaining about .gov and exercise my right to vote... well I remember the last two times I voted, McCain lost and Ken Buck lost... It's hard to have faith in the voting system when people- at least we saw the majority in CO- are effing stupid! So when people say to stop whining and vote I say "No, because my vote doesn't matter if everyone else is voting for the guy I'm against." I'll still continue to vote, but wouldn't it be more prudent to get more involved and try to sway the undecided vote, and if possible, convince a dog he's a cat by getting dems to stop electing people who hate America and want to wipe their ass with the US Constitution? <- I think we all know who I'm talking about right now. So really, just plain old voting, does it really make much of a difference anymore? I would think voting, along with getting actively involved with your party and their candidate would be more of a constructive choice.

Yes it does even if the exercise of voting is only cathartic.

If you do not vote for your guy then you're not helping your guy.

It is early but I think Colorado's electoral votes will go to Obama in 2012 by a wide margin. There are too many liberals and illegals to overcome in order to turn the state conservative.

I see this as an opportunity once again to vote for the person who best represents me. The person I vote for will probably not be an (R) unless the (R) nominee is someone other than Romney or Perry.

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Originally Posted by roberth

It is early but I think Colorado's electoral votes will go to Obama in 2012 by a wide margin. There are too many liberals and illegals to overcome in order to turn the state conservative.

I see this as an opportunity once again to vote for the person who best represents me. The person I vote for will probably not be an (R) unless the (R) nominee is someone other than Romney or Perry.

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Agreed; I think Obama, even though really hasn't done anything good, is still gonna do well in 2012, especially with the fruitcakes that repubs have pulled out so far..

That is, if we are still here by that time in 2012...

If you respect the US Constitution, you should show up at the polling place or vote an absentee ballot. Far too many people have died to provide us with the freedom to exercise this fundamental right of a democracy.

How you vote is your business. But as a veteran, you of all people should know how important it is to make your mark.

Just my $.02

If you don't vote you have nothing to complain about.

I would never refuse to vote, but the question I posed was is just voting enough these days- especially if you look at how electing Hickenlooper turned out (vast margins in favor of the dems), and then how our senate race was... dare I mention the DNC in Denver!? It just seems like showing up on election day isn't enough anymore, we need to be more proactive. I for one am going to back whoever is running against Obama and do my part to get more support against JOTUS and put someone who will actually respect our nation, our service members, and our constitution.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

I would never refuse to vote, but the question I posed was is just voting enough these days- especially if you look at how electing Hickenlooper turned out (vast margins in favor of the dems), and then how our senate race was... dare I mention the DNC in Denver!? It just seems like showing up on election day isn't enough anymore, we need to be more proactive. I for one am going to back whoever is running against Obama and do my part to get more support against JOTUS and put someone who will actually respect our nation, our service members, and our constitution.

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Go for it! Being politically active is also a freedom in this country. But like owning and carrying firearms, it's not for everyone. [Coffee]

I whole heartedly agree, being active helps a lot, and shows solidarity among like-mindeds. Sometimes supporters of a cause are shy to show it until others act first.

Now here's my greatest fear- the dems, numbers growing everyday, seem to be more likely to win in 2012 (according to multiple polls) and it appears there is no changing their mind. They always spit the same rhetoric: "Yeah Obama hasn't been that great, but I'd rather him be in office 4 more years than some republican!"

"If you don't vote you have nothing to complain about."


Try this one on:

Assume you are the legitimate owner of your land and home. You live alone in that home. I (a bum) come to your door with another bum 'friend' of mine. I propose an election to determine who should control the usage rights to your home (we are really tired of sleeping on the streets and greatly prefer not to work).

Do you, A - participate in the 'election' and bitch about the result; or, B - throw the bums (my 'friend' and myself) off your property, forcibly if required?

Now, before you claim that this is absurd because the 'electorate' is too small, tell me the number of 'voters' required to make this process (essentially our current system) legitimate and the reason that it becomes legitimate at that number.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

Now here's my greatest fear- the dems, numbers growing everyday, seem to be more likely to win in 2012 (according to multiple polls) and it appears there is no changing their mind. They always spit the same rhetoric: "Yeah Obama hasn't been that great, but I'd rather him be in office 4 more years than some republican!"

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We just have to hope they are complacent enough to not vote in 2012, like conservatives did in '08.