Well, he was...sort of. I mean, he won't be going back to prison, anyway.
Bout freakin' time. You finally got what you deserved 20-something years ago.
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Well, he was...sort of. I mean, he won't be going back to prison, anyway.
Bout freakin' time. You finally got what you deserved 20-something years ago.
well you know that they had to give him 3 hots and a cot for 20 years first
This lethal injection crap is too easy, it is like going to sleep.
Bring back ol' Sparky or hang them.
[Hang] public hanging would help people to act right thats for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by roberth
The appeals system in this country is out of hand. What ever happened to "swift execution of sentence"?Quote:
Originally Posted by alxone
This case just provides the antis more leverage on keeping monsters like the guy in Massachusetts, and black forest in prison for life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tor Larson
My thoughts also..Quote:
Originally Posted by Tor Larson
Too many people changed their stories, It did deserve a little more of a look. Or even a new trial.
Yes, I do agree 20 years is too long.
A friend of mine got to do a stint in federal prison in Kentucky back in the 60s for getting into an altercation with a cop in DC. (All crime in DC is Federal)
He was one of 10 white inmates in a sea of AfAm. They got grits for breakfast every morning.
The warden always carried out his executions right before sun up. They were still using "Old Sparky" as the method of dispatch back in those days. He said on those mornings of the execution they always got chitlins in their grits. Then the warden would enter the dining area and then in a loud southern hillbilly drawl inform the inmates, "Yeaaahhhhhh!!!!!. That's all that's left of that n...... I fried this mornin'!!!"
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Originally Posted by Tor Larson
Yep enough evidence that says it was BS that it should have beeen looked at! They MAY have executed an innocent man?
I have no moral or ethical problem with putting guilty murderers to death.
I just don't trust the state to get it right all of the time (hell, I don't trust the state to get it right MOST of the time).
I hope this guy was guilty.
If not then he is still free.
I don't think there is one member of this forum that has not been falsely accused at some time in their lives. I have a bad feeling about this case, but hey, we have the best justice system money can buy.Better to let all the guilty go free, than convict an innocent man...
True that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
The problem in, my eyes, is that justice and the law are seldom the same. Due process was followed in this case, and I think the jury made the right decision, based on the evidence they saw. All too often, the lawyers and investigators (on both sides) withhold evidence, skew facts, and outright lie, to achieve "victory", and justice falls by the wayside. Naive as it sounds, I'd rather see a prosecutor that had respect for the truth, and sought it out, rather than the one with the highest conviction rate.
I agree... and I've never been falsely accused of anything nearly as bad as murdering a police officer, but [to lighten the mood a bit] I was accused of banging this ugly fat broad from Australia... I didn't know how many times I had to yell at people "I didn't touch that bitch!"Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
I say bring back public firing squads or maybe even the guillotine- I think that might be a bit graphic though, but it gets the job done in one swift, gravity induced motion.
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Originally Posted by Ronin13
You know you were all up in dat shit!!! You hit it don't lie, you told her you loved her and then made a jello sea out of her.[Coffee]
[Puke]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazin
[Kick2]
Public Hanging
The whole "recanted their stories" bullshit is just that. If you really checked that out you'd also know that 2 of the recanters weren't called to testify in the sentencing phase. That's because the defense knew their recanted stories wouldn't hold up under cross examination. There is no question this guy shot and killed the officer. All of them also recanted after the trial and they were all "friends" of the defendant. Trial lawyers, even for the defense, will tell you that's not uncommon. They'll also tell you the changed stories are generally unreliable.
There is no question in the world this guy did. Three Air Force members, who had no connection to the defendant other than being witnesses, also picked him out of a lineup as the shooter.
This guy is as guilty as the day is long. The "recanted stories" line is a distraction engineered by anti-death penalty types, plain and simple.
Good riddance to this scumbag.
+1,000... This isn't "The Life of David Gayle."Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
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Originally Posted by trlcavscout
No gun, No DNA, No real conclusive evidence, and the guy gets the needle...Hmmmm, makes you wonder if it was a civilian and not a cop that was killed, he might of got off?
This was her huh....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46191
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I think someone watches too much CSI. Why the hell would you need DNA? This was also in the late 80s before DNA would've been widely available.Quote:
Originally Posted by waxthis
But if you don't think numerous eyewitnesses who knew the defendant and later identified him as the shooter, plus other independent witnesses who identified him as the shooter, is conclusive evidence, what would be conclusive to you?
Not only that but cops are civilians. If you're implying the investigation was slanted because it was a police officer that was shot instead of Joe Citizen I'd disagree with that, too.
Now I will say that people that kill cops are generally hunted relentlessly by cops...for a lot of reasons. Not the least of which is someone who'll kill a cop won't think twice about killing someone else. Police officers also hold a certain protected status due to the service they provide to the public...just like firefighters and other public servants. As it should be.
I'd like someone, anyone, to provide the name of one provably innocent person convicted of a crime who's been executed.
Anybody?
Cuz I can name a whole lot of people who've been let out of prison only to commit horrible crimes against real innocent people...not just make believe innocent people.
Why do so many people in this country have a soft spot for criminals?
Well if Tim Masters had the death penalty he probably would be dead by now, DNA saved his ass, and that was a crime from the late 80’s. There are numerous accounts of peeps in the slammer whose sentences have been overturned because of new evidence. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for the death penalty, however, I have absolutely no faith what so ever in our judicial system. In my opinion if your gonna execute someone it needs to be a slam dunk case, such as that POS who shot Gabrielle Gifford’s in Arizona, and the execution needs to be carried out within one week. No bleeding heart here.
Bailey, I will go with that, but you have to admit there is a very BIG difference between the way we prosecute people for crimes vs John Q. Public and Johnny Law- look at the difference between run-of-the-mill assault vs assault on a police officer. The legal system treats them as if they're above the rest, regardless of circumstance. Happened to a guy I went to High School with, he got into a fight at a bar with a guy who turned out to be a cop and they wanted to charge him with assaulting a police officer, even if the cop was off duty. Granted I agree with you that they do deserve more of a protected and recognized status because of the nature of their job, but in context.
And to go on the record here- No I can't think of one innocent person ever executed. I still think they need to add an express lane to those who are obviously and blatantly guilty of things like murder.
Anyone hear this? Texas is doing away with the last meal of choice for convicts about to be executed.