Notes from 'Patriots'

So, I read (listened to it) twice, and the second go through I kept notes of stuff I thought might be good to look up or have... As I type them up, I'll post what I have. I mostly wanted the books He talks about in it, but there were other things I wanted to check out also. I made notes of certain techniques in the book too like the blood donor/receiver chart, the compound trench, and the thermite grenades. I won't be posting my notes on the thermite. I have e unfair advantage of knowing the chemistry behind the info in the book, and it's pretty easy to do as it is. Don't want to be contributing bad ideas to all you heathens [Tooth].

So, here are the books I wrote down:

NATO Emergency War Surgery Manual

How to Prosper During the Coming Bad Years
Author:  Howard J. Roth 

Heart and Hands
Author: Elizabeth Davis

Making the Best of Basics


Encyclopedia of Country Living
Author:  Karla Emorys



The Complete Medicinal Herbal by Penelope Odehttp://www.amazon.com/Complete-Medicinal-Herbal-Practical-Properties/dp/156458187X

The Cure for All Diseases by Dr Hulda Clarkhttp://www.amazon.com/Cure-Diseases-Hulda-Regehr-Clark/dp/1890035017/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1314283645&sr=1-1

10 Essential Herbs by Lalitha Thomas
http://www.amazon.com/10-Essential-H...284121&sr=1-1#

Where there is No Dentist

Kirk Saxon books

Here's the blood chart.

Blood Chart
O+ 
Receive from:  O+, O-
Donate To:  O+, A+, B+, AB+
O-
Receive from:  O-
Donate to:  ALL
A+
Receive from:  A+, A-, O+, O-
Donate to:  A+, AB+
A-
Receive from:  A-, O-
Donate to:  A+, A-, AB+, AB-
B+
Receive from:  B+, B-, O+, O-
Donate to:  B+, AB+
B-
Receive from:  B-, O-
Donate to:  B+, B-, AB+, AB-
AB+
Receive from:  ALL
Donate to:  AB+
AB-
Receive from:  AB-, A-, B-, O-
Donate to:  AB+, AB-

Do you know your blood type and the types of your family members? gotta have that info. I'm AB+, BTW. Just hook me up and pump it.

Here are some of the items mentioned that I found notable, and the results of my basic research on them.

Cobra 148 GTL Model SST CB Radio

T.(Trace) H. Rinaldi Sharktooth knife (no longer makes this model, and fricken expensive!!!! Why buy this and not have a pistol? Made no sense to me when I read it.)

Paragon Dry Bags (nothing special about these, any would work)

York Packs, hard portage packs (canoe sites have them, and they look interesting. Might pick one up down the road.)

Moss Stardome II and Little Dipper tents (Moss is no longer in business sadly, their tents are rock solid.  MSR and Mountain Hardware are excellent alternatives).

Eventually, I'll have a list of Doug's B.O.B.'s contents and a list of items wanted at the Templar bizarre. Thought those would be good to have and mull over.

FYI - Here's the Author's FULL list of recommended books.

http://survivalblog.com/store/amazonbooks.html

So where do you rate this book in relation to OSA and Lights Out? Sounds like a must read since you talk about it so much.

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Originally Posted by Irving

So where do you rate this book in relation to OSA and Lights Out? Sounds like a must read since you talk about it so much.

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I think it is a read. It is very different from LO and OSA. My take after reading it a few times over the years is this.

It is hard to get going

Once it does it pulls you in

There are some good tips and tricks in it

Any book that as I read it for the first time has moments that makes one uneasy/squirm while reading it because you have been there/done that is worth it.

Save your phone books.[Coffee]

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Originally Posted by Irving

So where do you rate this book in relation to OSA and Lights Out? Sounds like a must read since you talk about it so much.

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As far as novels go, it'd rank as bad. You don't feel any attachment to the characters like OSA or LO, there isn't really anything sad like OSA and the story isn't nearly as fluid as in OSA and LO. As some describe it, Patriots is a survival/prepping guide trying to mascaraed as a novel.

That being said, as something that makes you think, Patriots is top notch. And as something that can help you start planning and prepping, Patriots is top notch. As something that will convince you that you NEED to prep, Patriots is the best.

I personally really got hooked after the first few pages and the description about how society and the economy went bad. The UN and nation building aspect of it also makes me uneasy. The whole book is so scary because he really lays it out accurately how we are on this path already and it could easily happen. There also ins't a similar book out there that is more accurate when it comes to firearms. OSA doesn't come close. LO tried but fell short (more when it comes to self defense particularly because he always felt so bad after hurting someone that was a treat to him.) And some of the others similar books like Jakarta Pandemic and the terrible book Last Light just got darn near everything about firearms and self defense wrong.

(Two particulars that come to mind for those last two books without any spoilers is that in Last Light the bad guy has a silenced revolver [Shake] and in Jakarta the good guy keeps his shotgun unloaded when confronting some BGs in his house...because he thinks he can load it (from the stock mounted shell holder) and shoot it before the BG 10ft away can attack him. Anyone with real firearms knowledge knows that's impossible even for the fastest shooters)

Final opinion...if you liked OSA and LO, Read Patriots.

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Originally Posted by jerrymrc

Save your phone books.[Coffee]

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Ha Ha Ha.

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Originally Posted by hollohas

LO tried but fell short (more when it comes to self defense particularly because he always felt so bad after hurting someone that was a treat to him.)

(Two particulars that come to mind for those last two books without any spoilers is that in Last Light the bad guy has a silenced revolver [Shake]

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I'd feel bad about killing people that was a treat to me.

Also, you can silence a Nagant revolver, but that's probably not what it was in the book. [Beer]

Irving beat me to it. You CAN, in fact, suppress a Nagant revolver...




Does anybody have a PDF copy of Patriots?

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Originally Posted by hollohas

As far as novels go, it'd rank as bad. You don't feel any attachment to the characters like OSA or LO, there isn't really anything sad like OSA and the story isn't nearly as fluid as in OSA and LO. As some describe it, Patriots is a survival/prepping guide trying to mascaraed as a novel.

That being said, as something that makes you think, Patriots is top notch. And as something that can help you start planning and prepping, Patriots is top notch. As something that will convince you that you NEED to prep, Patriots is the best.

I personally really got hooked after the first few pages and the description about how society and the economy went bad. The UN and nation building aspect of it also makes me uneasy. The whole book is so scary because he really lays it out accurately how we are on this path already and it could easily happen.

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I agree and disagree - it's not a good novel, but as mentioned a hint of a guide with some poor characterization and situations thrown in. His sudden transition to lists of items tended to be distracting from a story perspective. Seems to me he wanted to do both but wasn't sure where his strengths lay. I felt his whole UN business was unnecessary and unbelievable and interestingly enough a bit more conspiracy inclined than he seems on his blog. I think the EMP scenarios are more frightening and plausible.

I think he also over-emphasizes the silver angle - it's probably good in the middle range crisis scenario, but it seems to me that the depth of crisis he creates in his scenario, people'd want stuff, not silver. How do you assess value in silver in that situation? JMHO.

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Originally Posted by Irving

I'd feel bad about killing people that was a treat to me.

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Good catch! I would too.

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Originally Posted by mcantar18c

Irving beat me to it. You CAN, in fact, suppress a Nagant revolver...

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The area in that video looks familiar...

I knew about the Nagant sealing the cylinder gap and therefore figured you could silence them however I have never seen one. Thanks for the video!

Although, the book Last Light is crap and I am certain the author had no idea what she was talking about. If I remember correctly, the basic theme in that book is that God turned the power and electronics off.

so i just started reading this book, kind of scares the crap out of me. pretty believeable actually. i think people think back to 1930's and think if it was that bad and anarachy didn't happen, it really can't happen now. i think thats a big mistake. people now are more greedy, more dependent on the government, and more entitled. not only that but technology plays such a vital role in our security that if one aspect of technology goes down, everything goes with it. if anyone is interested in getting together sometime for a weekend or something and camping/shooting/hiking/practicing survival stuff, let me know, i need to get on it before its too late haha

In the 30s, people had a strong grasp in how to live from gardening, canning, storing food long term without electricity... much higher percent of rural people. The scale is now so lopsided to city dwellers, the panic would be outrageous. I think the book is very accurate in its estimations fo about two years of chaos before a calm.

Dont forget the Get out of Jail free card. Not really a survival tip but I laughed my @ss off

I think it was better than bad and I did get a little attached to TK and Fong. Some of the overly technical sections, primarily the radio stuff, was really dry and resulted in me skimming over it.

As for the premise and UN stuff, it's out there but not completely unbelievable.

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Originally Posted by mcantar18c

Does anybody have a PDF copy of Patriots?

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I have it on PDF. Message me with your email if you need a copy.
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