The Mans politics set aside....
An incredible visionary that brought us all a ton of great products...
The personal Computer would not be so personal without having had him
RIP Mr. Jobs.
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The Mans politics set aside....
An incredible visionary that brought us all a ton of great products...
The personal Computer would not be so personal without having had him
RIP Mr. Jobs.
Holy crap, man that is sad.
Truely a sad day. His innovations made the computer world what it is today.
Imagine what we would have now if Apple wouldnt have fired him in the 80s.
http://www.9news.com/news/article/22...-Jobs-has-died
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a true innovator and businessman.
rest in peace
RIP Steve Jobs.
on the news bulletin they played a clip of him talking about technology.
he said people want big, clear screens they can put put photos on. they want everything portable, no wires.
this was like 30 years ago.
smart guy.
My iPhone dropped at least 7 calls today for no reason in areas of known good reception. Conspiracy theorists take it from here...
RIP Mr Jobs- great contributions to technology.
He will be missed, I am sure he was the apple in someones eye.
RIP as a hard core apple guy I can say he will truly be missed.
Jobs leaves AAPL w/ $350.67B mkt cap (as of today's closing price).
HE got his wish.
It is bigger than IBM (211.21B) or MSFT (216.91B).
Yeah, I was disappointed in the 4S, too.
Sorry, What?Quote:
Originally Posted by Not_A_Llama
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a true innovator and businessman.
rest in peace[/
+1...... The tech world has lost a giant. RIP Sir.
Rest in peace Steve. You changed more lives then you will even know.
sad day, great innovator, definitely be in the history books. He left behind a great legacy.
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I think it was a joke about the iPhone 4S being released the same day he dies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Byte Stryke
Thank you for a better world Steve. I will always remember you and your contributions. From the Apple II, Macintosh, to the iPad and many other contributions you have made, thank you. I will miss your good taste and commitment to excellence.
RIP Steve Jobs
Apple Developer with true admiration,
Ronald
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If So, Bad form.
I don't agree with the man's Politics, but his innovations and leadership put us in an iWorld.
Without the iPod, Mac Air, and the iPhone we might have eventually gotten around to it, but his vision got us here sooner.
You can say what you want but the man built one of the biggest companys in the world.
RIP
Mazin's thread merged with the original on this topic.
Mac or PC
IOS or Android
It would be nowhere without him
RIP
Thanks Ginsue!![Beer]
I just hope the company keeps being innovative. watch the prices of APPL drop tomorrow, maybe a time to pick it up in the coming days.
i think I read the 2nd largest. damn impressive. would have been better if he wasn't ousted in the 70'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Mazin
80's*Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7
85-96 is when he was gone from apple.
Recently apple was bigger then Exxon Mobile. they were the largest company in the US and I think the world.
All from a garage in Southren Cali. talk about the american dream .
it started in his parents Basement actually...
they then moved to the garage.
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not a huge fan of apple but his skills and innovations will be missed, he was a brilliant person may he RIP
yeah I am not old enough to know these things, I am 26! thought I read 76 but I was wrong! thanks for catching that.Quote:
Originally Posted by clublights
I am truly amazed at what they accomplished, and how jobs was able to turn things around and really emerge as a great company. I imagine there are very few homes in the US that don't have something with an "I" in them.
May he R.I.P.
Truly a man of incredible vision.
And we haven't even gotten to the part where he co-founded Pixar, for crying out loud!
Crazy talented individual.
The world of technology has lost a pioneer.
Rest in peace Mr. Jobs.
Before we get a little to carried away here are a few reality checks.
1. GUIs (the foundation of Apple is a Xerox invention)
2. While his name appears on at least 10 patents for Apple, they are all collaborative with a team of people and are all to do with the aesthetics and shapes. No engineering or electronics.
3. There would be no Apple today were it not for Bill Gates and Larry Ellison.
4. He created more jobs in China than the USA
5. He was to Apple what Donald Trump is to the Trump Empire. A visionary, a salesman extraordinaire a leader, but no Edison, Bell, Marconi.
6. Not to mention an ardent supporter of the moron in the white house.
7. If you think his politics weren't important and influential, let me ask this?
What do you think are the electronics of choice in the sea of unwashed scum that are Occupy Wall Street?
8. Lastly. How much financial resources did he donate to politicians and causes to deprive our brothers and sisters in California of there 2nd Amendment Rights?
Lets not get all sloppy and start the canonization just yet folks.
AAPL has the 2nd largest market cap below XOM (359.553B).
AAPL beat petro china not too long ago.
Some argues that there are some countries that break up the companies in pieces like Samsung, or Mitsubishi.
Even if Samsung (elec,SDI, SDS,C&T, etc)'s mkt cap was combined, it woult be near 200b.
Yes that is true but market cap is a pie in the sky number that is controlled at the whims of traders and investors. How about comparing the assets. I remember when Amazon was the flavor of the month. It had a market cap that exceeded the largest airlines, and they didn't own a warehouse or a truck. Wall Street has long since stopped reflecting an accurate picture of reality.
Yes, other Valuation Measures should be also used to valuate the company.Quote:
Originally Posted by TSOTSI
Yes, I remember when AMZN was losing $ per Q. I think they were profitable starting 2002ish. He was on a CNBC that day. This is why people should look at the book value on a balance sheet, and income statement. Basically look at all the Fundementals would fit "portion of the pie"
What was the P/E on RMBS during 1Q2000? Was it 1200ish?
I will be doing a special 850KOA call in show on this topic in one hour.
If you can't sleep listen in, yes Marlin this is directed at you!
LOL
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Mark
AS of the June 2011 reports:
Exxon/Mobil had $326.204Bn in Total Assets and $170.653Bn in liabilities
Apple had $106.758Bn in Total Assets and $37.415 in liabilities.
Shit, Exxon had $209.807Bn in property, plant and equipment.
"Liars figure, but figures don't lie".
I'll take a tank a gas any day over a phone with fruit on it.
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Originally Posted by TSOTSI
Book value alone is not a good way to valuate the company either.
for an example:
What if OWNER1 have a $5mil building (and or invested in capital) Restaurant w/ 200employee, but my rev/profit is only 8m/1m
In contrast, OWNER2 have a $1m (and or invested in capital) building restaurant w/ 10employee, but their rev/profit is 13/5m?
There are over >30 fundementals for people to take a look at.
(not to mention to see technicals, economic indicators, sector indexes, option/short ratios, vel of $ relative to change in indexes, etc^1000 )
AAPL is not that over priced relative to other tech/electronic companies (P/E (ttm): 14.96), and XOM is P/E (ttm): 9.75.
To make it relative, AMZN's PE Ratio is P/E (ttm): 96.82 , CVX has P/E (ttm): 8.27 , and COP has P/E (ttm): 8.07 .
btw, although I am defending AAPL's price, I am not a fan of AAPL.
Wow .. I've never attacked anyone personally as I'm about to .. and frankly by the time I'm done.. I deserve a ban ..
TSO...
This is about the man dying. frankly if you don't get how much of a hand that Jobs had on EVERY apple product since his return in 1996 and how much that has changed the entire computer industry.. then your a fucking idiot.
Mr Prena...
Again this is about a man dying .. before his time ( frankly Jobs was fairly young.. 56 years old.) and again if you think he had zero to do with the way computers work today .. your a fucking idiot too..
did apple invent the mouse GUI?..No.. did apple bring it to the masses and market the fuck out of it ( with the permission of xerox) ? YES.
Did apple invent the smart phone? no.. did apple make it explode in the last 5 years? YES. has apple by many measures beat exxon for total value in the last few months? YES.
you hate apple hate apple I don;t give a rats ass.. this thread is about a man . a man with a family that has died much too young and frankly before hs time. has some fucking respect. you jack asses.
I've got over a dozen apple products sitting within 20 feet of me right now .... so does that suddenly make me one of those occupy wall street people??? ... no .. so go fuck yerself.Quote:
Originally Posted by TSOTSI
you wanna make a thread bashing apple go right the fuck ahead. I made this thread about a man who died.
I'll take my ban now... email me at clublights@mac.com and let me know for how long.