That was my reaction.
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That was my reaction.
http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/20...-for-home.html
Wow, I can't believe ANYONE still cites Kellermann (hell, even Kellermann himself doesn't).
I am no 1.8% dumber than I was before reading that.... thanks for that (now I'm on the same level as Irving! [LOL])
I feel bad for people who believe that, they're the same people who want to undermine the constitution and be rid of that pesky 2nd Amendment.
Not even gonna read past the first couple of sentences to know that is complete crap. RIDICULOUS!
HAHAHAHA. What absolute bs. Self defense is your responsibility. The 80 year old woman down the street who is in the neighborhood watch won't do **** when some fag enters your house. BTW last night mother F&$^er was in my shed. I think he might come back tonight it's been going on a lot lately.
Gun owner
or
Victim
You decide
Article also fails to mention how many times gun owners have prevented the crime from happening. It only quoted defensive gun usage. There are plenty more stories, both reported and not, of gunowners stopping crimes/violence without the actual shooting!
Gun owner-> not always obligated to protect potential victims... they should remember that one!Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
The Kellermann study has three major flaws.
1) It included suicides (in effing King County Washington ... the suicide capital of the US).
2) It required you to KILL an intruder in order to count as a "self defensive use".
3) It didn't differentiate between types of owners (a gang banger with a stolen glock is counted equally with an Orthodontist that collects 5 figure Italian shotguns).
So the original finding was that a gun kept in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member or acquaintance* than to kill an intruder. (*note that "acquaintance" as used here simply meant that the shooter and shootee knew each other before the shooting ... so a pimp shooting his ho or a drug dealer shooting a delinquent customer is the same thing as an innocent child finding a gun and accidentally shooting one of their siblings).
After Kellermann was called on the carpet for his bogus study even he revised the numbers down to 2.5 to 1 (so I have no idea where this idiot got the 22 to 1 figure). Even at 2.5 to 1 his study is flawed (all he did is removed the suicides ... all the other flaws still exist).
Wow, good thing I don't own just "A" gun, I feel much safer bristling with weapons.
96.7% of statistics are made up on the spot. ( I just made that up)
Statistics don't lie, but liars often use statistics.
These are the tactics of the gun grabbers. The numbers SOUND authentic, as well as being sensational, so people tend to believe them and repeat them as if they were true.
Guns don't kill people! People kill people. Blaming a gun for someone being killed is like blaming the US Mint for the government spending money poorly.
I blame them for my bills...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
I think there might be something to this 1% entitlement mentality
Pay my Student loans! so I can buy more ammunition
I Want ALL of my rights... my right to own guns shall not be infringed mutha fookerz!... even by the fact I cannot afford them!! The .gov should just givem to me!!!
#OcupyGunstore
[ROFL1]
on that note i'm going to the range! one way to fix a Monday! [AR15]
after reading the first paragraph i stopped and continued packing my range bag!
[ROFL1] coop
ok I thought this thread had something worth looking at. boy am i disppointed
I thought it was only 85% of statistics were made up (I made that up too)Quote:
Originally Posted by TFOGGER
i see you are near Boulder. I am currently in Superior, what range do you go to?Quote:
Originally Posted by coop68
I would like to see how this person feels about having a gun in his or her house after a robber or rapist/murderer breaks into their house and takes everything they want, or do something far worse. And if they live through it realize it could have all been prevented if the home owner would have had a gun.
First point is BE AWARE!!! Then run into the house. If you follow those rules you will be alright!!
Just BE AWARE people, just be aware.
Thanks Jordan, you made me stupider.
Does anyone have any fake alarm signs and motion lights and window magnets you can trade me for all my guns so I can be safe? I dont want my 4 year old picking the lock and guessing the combination on my climate controlled safe and getting into my guns. I feel I will be much more safe with the above mentioned items do to it being such a new idea criminals have not caught onto it yet. I have a nother new idea if you leave your TV and LIGHTS on when you are gone criminals will think you are still home.
Like that cute girl with the cardboard sign, we won't leave our various ammo purchasing stores until the .gov subsidizes our ammo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Byte Stryke
Come on, fellas, we've got some sittin' to do!
Given the site's new stance on swearing, I'm gonna go with "Jack-hole." More "facts" and "statistics" twisted to fit the case...
what a douche
What's your deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
[Pop]
After reading that article I have decided to turn over all my firearms so they can be destroyed.
no problem just bring them over ill make sure they get destroyed for ya! [Coffee][ROFL1][ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by Outlaw1
I'm a member of the boulder Rifle Club and Colorado Rifle Club Depending on what i need to Practice i go to one or the other if its under 200 yards BRC and if its Long range CRC out to 1000 yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackthewall81
coop
It's called poking fun... try it sometime. [Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I guess the disclaimer J/K needs to apply here...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
You didn't have an smilies, so I wasn't sure. Plus, I saw it the same day as I saw your thread about your frustration with math, so I wasn't sure if you were taking it out on me or not. Thanks for the explanation. [Beer]