Pre-Teen Transgender

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10-17-2011, 19:14
cebeu

Pre-Teen Transgender

Gee...I'm stunned... [Shake]

[reported across multiple sources...pick yours]

Controversial Therapy for Pre-Teen Transgender Patient Raises Questions

By Perry Chiaramonte
Published October 17, 2011 | FoxNews

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"A lesbian couple in California who say their 11-year-old son Tommy who wants to be a girl named Tammy are giving their child hormone blockers that delay the onset of puberty -- so that he can have more time to decide if he wants to change his gender.

The couple’s supporters say the Hormone Blocking Therapy has only minor side effects and is appropriate for a child who is unsure of his gender. "This is definitely a changing landscape for transgender youth," said Joel Baum, director of education and training for Gender Spectrum, a California-based non-profit group. "This is about giving kids and their families the opportunity to make the right decision."

Wasn't this a Twilight Zone episode in 69'? Or maybe an SNL "blow skit" in 85'?
10-17-2011, 19:18
Byte Stryke

the level of stupid in this article is monumental.
10-17-2011, 19:24
jackthewall81

Holy smokes..
10-17-2011, 19:27
KevDen2005

The demise of our civilization
10-17-2011, 19:45
blacklabel

This stuff makes me sick. God forbid a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl.
10-17-2011, 20:34
Daniel_187

This kid is going to have problems, today I read about another "gay" teenager killed himself(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1..._lnk1%7C104998) . when is this going to stop. I don't really want to go any further on this topic.
10-17-2011, 20:35
legaleagle

WTF - I thought the Oedipal complex was wanting to sleep with your mom, not your mom ,aking you a lesbian. This is rediculous and quite simply piss poor parenting by someone with issues. This is so wrong on so many levels, this could be an exam question for psychology school.
10-17-2011, 20:38
Fentonite

Someone lacking political correctness might point out that the kid has no male role model, but only two "female" role models to emulate. What the He£¥ is to be expected? Nothing but badness in this kid's future. I agree with the person quoted in the article who called it child abuse. Sick.
10-17-2011, 20:50
Ed_S

This is truely disgusting on a multitude of levels!

WTF has our society become? I'm no homophobe but same sex couples bring up kids is simply not right. Do what you want with yourselves but don't f'up a kids life!

I agree it's child abuse pure and simple!
10-17-2011, 21:40
Atrain1

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Originally Posted by Ed_S

This is truely disgusting on a multitude of levels!

WTF has our society become? I'm no homophobe but same sex couples bring up kids is simply not right. Do what you want with yourselves but don't f'up a kids life!

I agree it's child abuse pure and simple!

That is how I feel, I think it should be illegal for 2 people of the same sex to adopt a child. My wife has a cousin that is a lesbian and they are raising a boy. I got downright pissed off when I found out, and then they do stupid crap like have the kid call one of them Mom and the other is Moda, it is for Mom and Dad together. Just picture how messed up these kids are going to be.
10-17-2011, 22:40
sniper7

that is sick that they give the kid hormones to decide....
10-17-2011, 22:51
Outlaw1

How much longer do we have to wait for California to fall off into the ocean?
10-17-2011, 22:52
blacklabel

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Originally Posted by Outlaw1

How much longer do we have to wait for California to fall off into the ocean?

I love how often this same sentiment is posted here.
10-17-2011, 22:59
Irving

I don't think you need to have a dad to be a man. I personally don't think this kid's gender issues have anything to do with being raised by lesbians. I do however, strongly disagree with what these parents are doing. Be a damn parent and give your kid direction. If he wants to be a lady, well, he can start when he's 18. He'll have plenty of time to figure it out then.
10-17-2011, 23:28
Outlaw1

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Originally Posted by Irving

I don't think you need to have a dad to be a man. I personally don't think this kid's gender issues have anything to do with being raised by lesbians. I do however, strongly disagree with what these parents are doing. Be a damn parent and give your kid direction. If he wants to be a lady, well, he can start when he's 18. He'll have plenty of time to figure it out then.

He might not need a dad to become a man, but being raised in an openly gay environment around other openly gay people would make you an outcast if you weren't gay as well.

You know how kids want to grow up to be just like their daddy? Same principle.

When we have children it's our responsibility to give our children the best possible chance at a good life. IMO, that child isn't in a position to have the best possible life. Tragic.
10-17-2011, 23:51
Irving

Sure it has an effect, but come on, the kid goes to school, has other male friends with dad's, heck even watches tv. Those parents (snicker) sure as hell aren't handling this the right way, but I really have to wonder if this kid wouldn't have had problems on his own anyway.
10-18-2011, 00:02
blacklabel

I'm pretty understanding of other peoples desires and their personal preferences but I can't get over how important the relationship between a son and his dad can be in male childhood development. Learning how to interact with other men/boys in a mature way, treat women, etc. is developed in part due to the relationship that a son has with his dad. Granted, this is all dependent on the father not being a dead beat.

My relationship with my dad was pretty terrible but fortunately I had a brother that is 20 years older than me and could some what make up for it. My mom certainly couldn't have filled that role. This is my experience, so take it with a grain of salt.
10-18-2011, 00:02
Outlaw1

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Originally Posted by Irving

Sure it has an effect, but come on, the kid goes to school, has other male friends with dad's, heck even watches tv. Those parents (snicker) sure as hell aren't handling this the right way, but I really have to wonder if this kid wouldn't have had problems on his own anyway.

Regardless of the parents, this child would have ended up on hormone medication waiting for his transformation Tommy into Tammy?

I'm having trouble seeing it as a huge coincidence.
10-18-2011, 00:11
Irving

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Originally Posted by Outlaw1

Regardless of the parents, this child would have ended up on hormone medication waiting for his transformation Tommy into Tammy?

I'm having trouble seeing it as a huge coincidence.

Oh, no no no no no. I'm saying that regardless of the parents, perhaps this kid would have identity issues. The whole hormones thing is a huge cluster.
10-18-2011, 00:19
Outlaw1

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Originally Posted by Irving

Oh, no no no no no. I'm saying that regardless of the parents, perhaps this kid would have identity issues. The whole hormones thing is a huge cluster.

It's still hard for me to believe it's a coincidence. Why don't we see headlines with regular mom/dad families and 11 year old transgenders?

Got kids?

Heaven forbid something happens to you and the couple that is raising Tommy gets custody of your children. Would it be a surprise if they turned out to be gay?
10-18-2011, 00:26
Irving

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Originally Posted by Outlaw1

It's still hard for me to believe it's a coincidence. Why don't we see headlines with regular mom/dad families and 11 year old transgenders?

Got kids?

Heaven forbid something happens to you and the couple that is raising Tommy gets custody of your children. Would it be a surprise if they turned out to be gay?

You don't hear about it, because straight parents are less likely to nurture oddities like a couple of lesbians would.

Yes I do have kids.

Yes, it would be just as surprising to have a gay kid come out of same sex parents. Actually, I'd say it'd be MORE surprising.
10-18-2011, 07:50
ghettodub

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Originally Posted by Irving

I don't think you need to have a dad to be a man. I personally don't think this kid's gender issues have anything to do with being raised by lesbians. I do however, strongly disagree with what these parents are doing. Be a damn parent and give your kid direction. If he wants to be a lady, well, he can start when he's 18. He'll have plenty of time to figure it out then.

Agree with you 100%; I know plenty of kids of gay parents, and they turned out just fine. Just because they're gay doesn't mean they're a bad parent; being a bad parent makes you a bad parent.
10-18-2011, 08:05
TSOTSI

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Originally Posted by ghettodub

Agree with you 100%; I know plenty of kids of gay parents, and they turned out just fine. Just because they're gay doesn't mean they're a bad parent; being a bad parent makes you a bad parent.

Define "just turned out fine"

If a parent is brainwashing a kid to believe gay is "NORMAL" how is that not bad parenting?

There is a big difference between teaching a child that their are people with warped sexual identies and teaching them that they are normal.
10-18-2011, 08:08
BPTactical

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Originally Posted by Fentonite

Someone lacking political correctness might point out that the kid has no male role model, but only two "female" role models to emulate. What the He£¥ is to be expected? Nothing but badness in this kid's future. I agree with the person quoted in the article who called it child abuse. Sick.

This x 10. While we don't need to go into the same sex couple debate I don't understand why those that have chosen to be with one that is the same sex feel they are equipped to raise a child.
It takes a male and female to conceive a child.
It takes a male and female to raise a child.
Being an effeminate male does NOT make you a mommy.
Being a butch female does NOT make you a daddy.

I feel every child that has same sex parents is just set up to fail.
10-18-2011, 08:13
ghettodub

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Originally Posted by TSOTSI

Define "just turned out fine"

If a parent is brainwashing a kid to believe gay is "NORMAL" how is that not bad parenting?

There is a big difference between teaching a child that their are people with warped sexual identies and teaching them that they are normal.

Turned out fine as in someone who is successful, lives a normal life, aren't pedos as many would like to believe, and doesn't judge people based on their sexual preference, or based on something that doesn't have any effect on others unless you choose to let it. This topic really only is driven by people's opinions on gays, so I don't even see a point in discussing this (and by this topic, I mean gays; not the transgender kid. On this issue, I don't think the parents should be able to do that, or that kid shouldn't be able to make that choice at that age. When they're older, sure, who gives a crap)

Couldn't disagree with you more, and I don't even think I need to dignify that with more of a response.
10-18-2011, 08:29
TSOTSI

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Originally Posted by ghettodub

Turned out fine as in someone who is successful, lives a normal life, aren't pedos as many would like to believe, and doesn't judge people based on their sexual preference, or based on something that doesn't have any effect on others unless you choose to let it. This topic really only is driven by people's opinions on gays, so I don't even see a point in discussing this.

Couldn't disagree with you more, and I don't even think I need to dignify that with more of a response.

Your statement is indicative of someone who is a either standing too close to the fire to be objective about the ambient temp, or has been successfully indoctrinated by the agenda of the gay mafia as is the case with the post 60s generations. In either case there is no room for fact in a subjective mind.
10-18-2011, 08:34
ghettodub

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Originally Posted by TSOTSI

Your statement is indicative of someone who is a either standing too close to the fire to be objective about the ambient temp, or has been successfully indoctrinated by the agenda of the gay mafia as is the case with the post 60s generations. In either case there is no room for fact in a subjective mind.

And the same could be said about your and your opinions, just reversed...

It has nothing to do with me being "indoctrinated"; I know enough gays and the sort to know that, on a majority, they're just like everyone else, and just as f'd up as everyone else. As for gay parents, I'd rather children have good loving gay parents than abusive and horrible straight parents. And I choose to judge individuals by their actions, and not by who or what they are...

But I'm not going to discuss it more. Cheers. [Beer]
10-18-2011, 08:44
alxone

friking disgusting , yet another reason i hope cali falls into the ocean .
10-18-2011, 08:49
TSOTSI

What is it with this bull$... when it comes to these escapees of the Last American Freak Show that these libs insist on referring to them by the gender they are claiming they are.

What would they do if some guy was crawling around on all 4s with no clothes on, sniffing at everyone who walked by ass and barking? You can be damn sure these same idiots force-feeding society sexual deviance as norm would be the first to call the nice young men in their clean white coats before they would call the guy on all 4s a dog.

I have never heard them state that if some cracker kid decides he is black that they will concede he is black. In fact let him fill out on a legal document and state that he is black when he isn't and see what happens when the grand inquisitors find out he lied.

Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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The altered mind alters all.
10-18-2011, 09:04
TSOTSI

America. The only place on earth where a poor black kid can grow up to be a rich white woman. (although I have never heard a single lib concede that he was white)

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...n1l3xSYFr8hQfN http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...QMKanzomyOYLDQ
10-18-2011, 09:09
ghettodub

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Originally Posted by TSOTSI

America. The only place on earth where a poor black kid can grow up to be a rich white woman. (although I have never heard a single lib concede that he was white)

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...n1l3xSYFr8hQfN http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...QMKanzomyOYLDQ

Now that's one I can agree with ya on [LOL]
10-18-2011, 10:12
waxthis

Shocking needs to be removed from the dictonary. By now we have seen it all, the word now has no meaning.. [Eek3]
10-18-2011, 11:01
Ronin13

I'm not overly religious, but to quote Reagan: "The Soviets crashed because of Godlessness."
Eventually people will be able to change ethnicity too! Shove it God, we don't need you anymore <- Since we can just change what he made us.
10-18-2011, 11:13
Lex_Luthor

And people wonder why their relationships or personal beliefs don't hold up strongly to the test of Time. Something's missing.
10-18-2011, 13:27
cofi

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Originally Posted by Fentonite

Someone lacking political correctness might point out that the kid has no male role model, but only two "female" role models to emulate. What the He£¥ is to be expected? Nothing but badness in this kid's future. I agree with the person quoted in the article who called it child abuse. Sick.

this....this is why gays adopting is a bad idea....
10-18-2011, 13:47
Ronin13

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Originally Posted by cofi

this....this is why gays adopting is a bad idea....

I'm trying to agree with you more but that's like trying to overfill your beer, it's just spilling out! [Beer]

My parents divorced when I was young, but still a major part of my life. My dad taught me the importance of being a man, standing up for myself and what I believe and although he didn't serve himself (but spent 29 years as a firefighter) he was one of the main causes for my joining the Army. My mother taught me empathy, respect women, how to be sympathetic without being a pu$$y, and how to fix a car (she was a tomboy growing up).... a young boy adopted by a lesbian couple will never truly learn how to be a man, respect himself enough to carry push into shove territory, and what it means to be a man. I'm all for gay rights, my uncle was gay, I'm just a bit in disagreement that they should be in charge of a child's upbringing, a kid needs a mom and a dad, or at the very least an idea behind mommy and daddy- for those who lost a parent.
10-18-2011, 14:58
Outlaw1

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Originally Posted by ghettodub

This topic really only is driven by people's opinions on gays, so I don't even see a point in discussing this (and by this topic, I mean gays; not the transgender kid.

My opinion is based on what I feel is the best interest for this child.

Maybe that wasn't the best choice in households to raise him. Just sayin'....
10-18-2011, 15:49
ghettodub

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Originally Posted by Outlaw1

My opinion is based on what I feel is the best interest for this child.

Maybe that wasn't the best choice in households to raise him. Just sayin'....

right, and that you don't feel that gays are the right choice of parents? You'll note that in my comment that I stated my comments were just about gays as parents, and not about what the OP posted. In that case, the parents are no good, but I don't think it's because they're gay. I think it's because they're bad parents...
10-18-2011, 21:25
Irving

It'd be nice if people could utilize logic when discussing gays, instead of emotion. Might as well be talking about favorite colors in here.

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