Another one for the roofers.

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10-30-2011, 10:59
jerrymrc

Another one for the roofers.

So the roof was replaced. They had to come back and fix some things I felt were not up to snuff. Now the fun part. As part of the job they added vents to the roof. I did not ask for them they were just there when it was done.

Went up to the attic yesterday to get the decorations down for Halloween. What I saw disturbs me very much. I remember the conversation with the sales man about some dust when they cut the holes for the vents. They did not cut holes for the vents. They took a hammer and just smashed holes in the roof sending splinters and pieces of plywood everywhere on the items that are in the attic.

I am not a roofer but I would think that if I wanted to put in a vent I would measure and cut a hole in the roof not take a hammer and beat a hole in it. Or is this normal?http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...e062Medium.jpg
10-30-2011, 11:04
Byte Stryke

Pictures, documentation, lawyer, court
with a side of BBB
10-30-2011, 11:07
Cman

I had my roof done by C&C. They also put in vents but it looked nothing like that! Call them back and have them repair that mess.
10-30-2011, 11:14
jerrymrc

I sent the Pic to the salesman asking for an explanation. I will take more today. They have not been paid yet.
10-30-2011, 11:22
Cman

Well that's good! Now you LOTS of leverage!
10-30-2011, 11:29
Gcompact30

I would not pay them for that work.... That sucks....
10-30-2011, 11:30
trlcavscout

Ya that is unexplainable! I would double check everything else they did now, maybe have another "expert" check it out.
10-30-2011, 11:47
BushMasterBoy

Building Code Violation?

Surely this is a building code violation, don't you have to be licensed to be a roofing contractor? Make sure if any gas flues are correctly installed too, carbon monoxide kills. Some links below...

http://www.pprbd.org/

http://www.pprbd.org/permits/REROOF%...IONS%20web.pdf
10-30-2011, 11:47
hollohas

Yup, that's terrible work. Looks like you're getting new sheathing too. Don't accept a simple fix from them. They need to tear it off and replace any and all sheathing they beat holes in and do it right at no cost to you.
10-30-2011, 12:44
jerrymrc

More. The flange did not cover the hole. http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...e070Medium.jpg http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...e068Medium.jpg http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...e064Medium.jpg
10-30-2011, 13:56
SA Friday

Dude, that wasn't acceptable when I was roofing houses back in 87-88. Complete BS and not even close to code. You need to get their HMFIC over to your place and chew some ass. I would seriously consider calling a city inspector over to inspect the entire job so you can find ALL potential short cuts. I would be very concerned about the actual roof and if it would stay in place after one of our summer afternoon wind gusts. These are the kind of idiots that will pump up the Psi on their guns and over insert the nail in the singles. This tears the single with the nail head and a good wind finishes the job. Get it inspected before paying a cent.
10-30-2011, 14:09
Jer

Damn, that sucks. I didn't have any issues using the same contractor but I doubt they used the same roofers since I'm NW of Loveland. I'm sure Dan will take care of you though since they're the contractor and are responsible for the work done by the roofers.
10-30-2011, 16:14
Marlin

Well, if you ever wanted to own at least part of a roofing company, now's your chance.

[Tooth]

Fairly "third world" looking.
10-30-2011, 18:27
Byte Stryke

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Originally Posted by Marlin

Fairly "third world" looking.

I saw better looking work in Kirkuk
10-30-2011, 19:03
blacklabel

Damn. That's the definition of shoddy. Stay on them until it's fixed.
10-30-2011, 19:24
jerrymrc

I have yet to move the rest of the stuff out of the way to take pictures of the other two vents. The second one does not even overlap the plywood and the nails holding it in are just in the roofing and nothing else.

Of course the side that is unsecured at all is the side where the wind comes from. Still no word. There are two on the garage as well. Fixing it correctly will entail pulling up half the roof. I see how one could fix it from the inside but it would be half-assed. If they had just taken an extra 10 min to use the template and cut a hole......

I had an uneasy feeling when They started removing the roof at 9.30 am and when I came home at 2 pm it was done. [Rant1]
10-30-2011, 19:35
Post Toastie

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerrymrc

The second one does not even overlap the plywood

I think the tunnel bores of the chunnel were better aligned...
10-30-2011, 19:49
jerrymrc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Post Toastie

I think the tunnel bores of the chunnel were better aligned...

You may be right. Have ya seen your ebay ad? [Coffee]
10-30-2011, 23:39
Irving

Quote:

Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

Surely this is a building code violation, don't you have to be licensed to be a roofing contractor?

Nope.
10-31-2011, 05:53
waxthis

Quote:

Originally Posted by SA Friday

Dude, that wasn't acceptable when I was roofing houses back in 87-88. Complete BS and not even close to code. You need to get their HMFIC over to your place and chew some ass. I would seriously consider calling a city inspector over to inspect the entire job so you can find ALL potential short cuts. I would be very concerned about the actual roof and if it would stay in place after one of our summer afternoon wind gusts. These are the kind of idiots that will pump up the Psi on their guns and over insert the nail in the singles. This tears the single with the nail head and a good wind finishes the job. Get it inspected before paying a cent.

+1!
10-31-2011, 15:30
jerrymrc

I have been told that it is not the way it should have been done and that someone would try and get me a credit.
10-31-2011, 16:20
CapLock

Jig Saw..." WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN JIG SAW!!"

4.5 hours ain't too bad when your rolling with a brown army.[ROFL1]
10-31-2011, 17:54
SideShow Bob

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerrymrc

I have been told that it is not the way it should have been done and that someone would try and get me a credit.

Credit hell ! They should be coming over ASAP and redo your entire roof at no charge or you should be calling 9 news or Tom Martino [LOL] over to shoot some video and put their quality work on air so they can increase exposure to drum up more business.
11-04-2011, 19:42
jerrymrc

The guy was out yesterday. Said they are going to fix it. We will see since what I have been told they just about have to replace the entire side of it to do it right.

I be right there with them when they do.
11-04-2011, 19:48
Irving

How's the weather looking for you down there in the next week or so? I think we are expecting 60% chance of precipitation up here tomorrow.
11-04-2011, 20:21
jerrymrc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irving

How's the weather looking for you down there in the next week or so? I think we are expecting 60% chance of precipitation up here tomorrow.

Rain Monday but clear the rest of the week. I am told that they can pull up the sections affected and replace the plywood. Then replace the vents and put back (with a few new pieces) the roofing.

I have also been told that this is just about impossible. I will be up there with a ringside seat to watch. I fell off a ladder about 5 years ago and now have this stupid phobia but I can will myself to get up there. I will watch and know what is ok and what is not. [Coffee]
11-04-2011, 21:03
jscwerve

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerrymrc

Rain Monday but clear the rest of the week. I am told that they can pull up the sections affected and replace the plywood. Then replace the vents and put back (with a few new pieces) the roofing.

I have also been told that this is just about impossible. I will be up there with a ringside seat to watch. I fell off a ladder about 5 years ago and now have this stupid phobia but I can will myself to get up there. I will watch and know what is ok and what is not. [Coffee]

Nothing is impossible when dealing with construction. Just the difficulty of the task and how big the scope of work can creep. Example of replacing one sheet of plywood: maybe the whole damn side of the roof needs to come off because of interlocking roofing tiles, etc. I don't know, I'm not a roofer. Either way, if it has to be done, it has to be done. I've owned a landscape construction company for some years now and lemme tell you, sometimes you have to bite the bullet and do a whole lot more work than planned, but that's the way it goes. And this type of thing would get someone fired from my company instantly, no questions asked. (truth be told I've fired for less)

Ever watch Holmes Inspection? It's things like this that lead to MAJOR problems later in the life of the house. A very long time friend of mine is a Licensed home inspector (yes, there is a difference in being licensed and joe blow handyman/inspector) and you should see some of the pictures hes sends. Horrifying what some of these contractors get away with.
11-05-2011, 08:59
Bailey Guns

Holy crap! That's pretty funny in a "WTF WERE THEY THINKING WHEN THEY DID THAT?" kind of way...not funny in the sense it actually happened.

You sound like you're handling it a lot better than I would.
11-05-2011, 10:15
sniper7

its fine amigo...that is how we did it down in mexico

I would tell them the job was done wrong, they aren't getting paid and you are having a competent roofer fix it.