This is getting a bit ridiculous unless the evidence
does point to him actually stalking Trayvon and was indeed a hate crime
Hope for Zimmerman's sake he is acquitted
FBI may charge George Zimmerman with hate crime
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This is getting a bit ridiculous unless the evidence
does point to him actually stalking Trayvon and was indeed a hate crime
Hope for Zimmerman's sake he is acquitted
FBI may charge George Zimmerman with hate crime
Hot button topic. Like gays, civil unions/ marriage. The potential to charge him with a hate crime allows the justice system to use a wide brush for prosecution. They need to prove (not beyond a reasonable doubt) some malice based on color was involved. It will be easier to get a conviction on a hate crime (resulting in death) than the questionable charge he has now.
PLUS a federal charge allows the .gov to try the case in any federal court in the country. Put the case other than FL (as the defense asked for) in a state where hate crime charges carry the maximum such as CA (SF fed district ct) and he goes away for many years. Try the case at a state level and maybe 3-5 if found guilty on a lesser manslaughter charge.
ALSO keep in mind this case is tied in to GUN CONTROL. The objection to the FL Stand your Ground Law has broad support. Courtesy of the same gun owners who feel there is nothing wrong with "Sensible Gun Laws" Find Zimmerman guilty and the groundswell to repeal SYG will be the foundation in O's second term to move hard on all guns, ammo and ownership.
I'm certainly a lot more moderate/liberal than most folks here, but man, I hate the concept of a hate crime. A criminal act is just that - prosecute a perp for that, but don't make up some stupid hate crime bullshit.
Last I checked I didn't think it was illegal to hate people, hate crimes is such crap I mean if someone does a crime they do a crime, why should it matter what motivated them besides the differences between manslaughter, murder 2 and murder 1. I hate communists (my signature is a joke by the way lol) so if I beat up a o-bot would I get in even more trouble than if I beat up a regular person? Lol
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Originally Posted by jreifsch80
RUCKER hit it on the head this pc protected class stuff is going to bring us down
Pretty scary how effective the left has been with hate crime legislation. If they can legislate what they think you were thinking based on race, they can legislate all kinds of other behavior based on what you might have been thinking.
Tommato
Basically an innocent man is going to be sacrificed on the alter of political correctness.
Fubar
His medical intake report was just released yesterday, showing conclusively that he suffered a gash in the back of his head, a broken nose, two black eyes, a possible concussion, and other lesser injuries. There was definitely a fight and he was definitely getting his ass kicked before firing his weapon.
Did you hear what the Martin lawyers had to say about the injuries on little Treyvon's knuckles? Went something like: He was defending himself and in a life and death struggle with a man that had a GUN...A 9MM GUN!Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint45
The idea that the gun was drawn before the guy's nose got broken is laughable to me.
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And the only injury to Trayvon, besides the bullet hole, was to his knuckles.
If I were Z-mans lawyers, I'd be getting in front of this. "Barak Obama is personally coming after my client because he killed his unborn son."
Ironic that if Michelle had killed his unborn son, that would be Kosher.
And how many other black youths have been killed in Florida since this case? How many federal cases investigated on those? I bet George wishes his parents had gone with a hyphenation of his fathers's and his mother's Peruvian last name. Go ahead Hispanics, cast your lot with the democrats- just know you are at the back of the justice bus relative to blacks.
Hate crimes are such BS. How can I be prosecuted for what I believe? We have thought police now? You should be prosecuted for what you do, not what you think.
What if you hate the FBI....
Hate Crime? Racially motivated?
My take on this is:
Two idiots met in the dark. One of them had a gun.
maybe Trayvon(even in death) should be charged with a racist hate crime since he was hating on a Hispanic. Zimmerman in-spite of his last name is Hispanic. This whole subject is a wag the dog to keep attention away from the real issues going. We can expect to see a lot more of this style crap in the coming months
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Glad to see you back.
Well, for whatever reason, I have been having trouble getting to this forum? And even now, things don't like right on my screen. Of course all my pm's and posts are gone, lol.
It's like we're letting the cast of "jersey shore" run our country..... I thought rational thinking and intelligence were kinda required to be in positions of authority....
I'm pretty sure there is one idiot here and he would be Mr Z. I don't think it's a hate crime I think that it was a guy out of line that committed a murder!Quote:
Originally Posted by gcrookston
Are you saying that Zimmerman committed murder? Please excuse yourself if you are ever called in for jury duty- just say "I'm not well versed enough in the difference between murder and self defense to make an informed decision on this matter." [Bang]Quote:
Originally Posted by nells08
Seems like they're trying to pull some people out of the woodwork to chime in after the fact and say "oh yeah, by the way, Zimmerman was a racist bully to me previously..."
i highly question your logic and judgement.Quote:
Originally Posted by nells08