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05-17-2012, 08:01
palepainter

Tin Hat stuff?
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/05...companies-why/
Who Is Buying American Firearms Companies? Why?

WHO IS BEHIND ALL THE AMERICAN GUN MANUFACTURERS AND DEALERS QUIETLY SELLING THEIR BUSINESSES? WHAT ARE THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES? This is an URGENT Letter from Al Thompson / Torrance, CA USA. Please read, comprehend what this means and pass this NEWS on to others (you won’t see this in the liberal-bias media)…
This is an URGENT Notice to read and understand the consequences if this silent process is not exposed to the citizens of the USA Immediately — or you can read and figure it out with your own perceptions. This is a methodical process in the current “silent coup d’ etat’ of the United States of America that has been hidden by the MSM that is being perpetrated on all Americans by the Obama administration. This NEWS-WORTHY story needs be exposed immediately.

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We all need to be aware of our government’s activities, regardless of how secret they try to keep it. SOMEOF YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT THIS HAPPENING…
Who is buying companies that manufacture firearms?

Confirmed… Marlin Firearms is already closing it’s doors!Even if you do not own a gun, you need to know this.This needs to be spread to all gun owners and sportsman.We cannot rely on the media to report on this major issue (One line from the Cerberus Capital Management information at Wikipedia:)
- Firearms – Acquired Bushmaster Firearms, Inc., from Windham, Mainenative Dick Dyke for an undisclosed sum in April 2006, and purchased Remington Armsin April 2007. Under Cerberus direction, Bushmaster Firearms acquired Cobb Manufacturing, a well-respected manufacturer of large-caliber tactical rifles in August 2007.
- Cerberus also acquired DPMS Panther ArmsDecember 14, 2007.[29][30] Remington Arms acquired Marlin Firearms in January 2008.[31][32] In October 2009, Remington Military products acquired silencer manufacturer Advanced Armament Corporation.[33] These companies were combined into the Freedom Group.
For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group
has been buying-up gun and ammunition manufacturers. Some of
the companies are Bushmaster, Marlin, Remington, DPMS,
Dakota Arms and H&R. Some people worry that this Freedom
Group is going to control most (if not all) of the firearms companies
in the United States. If you control the manufacturers, you can
decide to stop selling to civilians. What a perfect way to control guns!
This will keep Obama, et al from trashing the 2nd amendment – think about that!
If you do some digging you will see that The Freedom Group is
owned by a company called Cerberus Capital Management.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Group
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus_Capital_Management
Guess who controls Cerberus? GEORGE SOROS!! One of the most
evil men on this planet, who wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns.
Please pass this on to all your freedom-loving friends. This needs to
come out. Why have we not heard about this in the “mainstream” media?
I would think this would be BIG news. (Soros also owns Progressive Insurance)
If you don’t know who George Soros is, you need to do some research. He backed and IS BACKING Obama with millions of dollars and Obama is a puppet on a string controlled by Soros.
Send this to every gun owner in America!
Source
05-17-2012, 08:05
Zundfolge

George Soros has nothing to do with Cerberus or Freedom Group.

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/fe...rberus&st=&ps=
05-17-2012, 08:06
Mtn.man

we hashed this a Long time ago.
05-17-2012, 08:07
BPTactical

Yup, the Soros connection is a myth.
But it is a bit disconcerting that so much of the firearms industry is under a central control.
05-17-2012, 08:08
palepainter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mtn.man

we hashed this a Long time ago.

Sorry, I missed it. If it has been run through here already, feel free to remove the post. No skin off my teeth.
05-17-2012, 08:13
HBARleatherneck

delete
05-17-2012, 08:27
Zundfolge

anyone else having trouble getting their posts to display properly? and what's with all the doubletaps lately?
05-17-2012, 08:29
Zundfolge
Quote:

Originally Posted by palepainter

Sorry, I missed it. If it has been run through here already, feel free to remove the post. No skin off my teeth.

Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty ... nothing wrong with questioning things.

I would, however, recommend you find someplace other than the Pakalert Press.

If you go to their home page and look at the list of "Popular Stories" the first two are:
- Six Zionist Companies Own 96% of the World's Media
- Israel did 9/11, ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD!!
And they have a section titled "Illuminati Dajjal" with fun stories like:
- Rihanna’s Reptilian Shape Shifting Video
- Eight Signs the Illuminati Orchestrated WW2
- Illuminati Inflict Biblical Plagues on Thailand
I'm thinking Alex Jones would look at that site and say "wow, what a bunch of crack pots".
05-17-2012, 08:45
palepainter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zundfolge

anyone else having trouble getting their posts to display properly? and what's with all the doubletaps lately?

I had the same issue with my original post.
05-17-2012, 09:52
gcrookston

...and Cerberus acquired Chrysler in 2003 and that went very well for them... Not.

Kollitudes and Campbell (Freedom Group), are old GE hands. Campbell turned around GE's appliance division and has a reputation for turning scrap into Gold. Kollitude is one of the Wiz Kids that came out of GE and has a knack for raising capital and turning a profit.

Cerberus is moving into other more profitable directions in order to repay investors for a few small holes in their portfolio left by companies like Chrysler.

Kollitude tapped Campbell to oversee re-engineering and streamlining the operations, much as he had done at GE.

Don't get me wrong: These guys are not gun guys. Kollitudes is a capitalist of the first order and Campbell is reported to be one of the top manufacturing operators in the world with a reported keen ability to maximize per-unit profitability and market share.

These are the kind of people I'd hire if I were going to dominate a market segment. I would expect good things from them.
05-17-2012, 10:12
whichfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by palepainter

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus_Capital_Management
Guess who controls Cerberus? GEORGE SOROS!!

Guess who's name doesn't appear anywhere in the link you furnished? Do you actually check the links in your posts or do you just pass them on with no vetting?
05-17-2012, 10:26
gcrookston

Quote:

Originally Posted by whichfinger

Guess who's name doesn't appear anywhere in the link you furnished? Do you actually check the links in your posts or do you just pass them on with no vetting?

Soro's link to this outfit is as valid as his involvement with the JFK assassination. Dan Quayle, on the other hand, was on the board at Cerebus at one point, though what influence he had was probably nil.

All one has to do is read the notes of the 10q of both companies to understand their only agenda is to make money. If you look at the acquisitions Freedom has made, most of them were on the ropes. They acquired Para for $5,000, for example (it was so mired in debt it couldn't couldn't make payroll there at the end).
05-18-2012, 09:49
whichfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcrookston

"Don't believe everything you read on the internet. That's how World War One started"-- Gen. Curtis E. LeMay

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05-18-2012, 10:17
palepainter

Quote:

Originally Posted by whichfinger

Guess who's name doesn't appear anywhere in the link you furnished? Do you actually check the links in your posts or do you just pass them on with no vetting?

Hey Buddy, if you read the title of my post, you would have seen a big ass question mark at the end of it. I ran across it for discussion, not for the purpose of propaganda.
05-18-2012, 10:34
palepainter
Oh by the way. That wasn't my link, but the one that was embedded in the story for discussion. But for everyone here, I am posting the info in that link too.

Cerberus Capital Management

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Cerberus Capital Management, L.P. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...berus_logo.png Type Limited Partnership Industry Private Equity
Hedge Fund Management Founded 1992 Founder(s) Steve Feinberg & William L. Richter Headquarters New York City Products Private Investment funds including:
U.S. Corporate Distressed/Private equity funds
Distressed Securities and Assets
Commercial Lending
Real Estate Total assets More than $20 billion Website www.cerberuscapital.com www.ablecofinance.com www.cerberusbusinessfinance.com Cerberus Capital Management, L.P. is an American private equity firm.[1] The firm is based in New York City, and run by financier Steve Feinberg, who co-founded Cerberus in 1992 with William L. Richter who currently serves as a Senior Managing Director. The firm has affiliate and/or advisory offices in the United States, Europe and Asia.[2]
Cerberus has more than US$20 billion under management in funds and accounts. The company is a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Registered Investment Advisor.[3] Investors include prominent government and private sector pension and retirement funds, charitable foundations, university endowments, insurance companies, family savings and sovereign wealth funds.[1]
The firm's headquarters are located at 875 Third Avenue in New York City.
Contents
Founding/History

Cerberus is named for the mythological three-headed dog that guarded the gates of Hades. Feinberg has stated to his employees that while the Cerberus name seemed like a good idea at the time, he later regretted naming the company after the mythological dog.[4] At this point, however, the firm’s name has significant brand equity.[5]
Specialties/Areas of Focus

The company has been a very active acquirer of businesses over the past several years and now has sizable investments in Financial Services, Healthcare, Consumer & Retail, Government Services, Manufacturing & Distribution, Technology & Telecommunications, Building Products, Energy & Natural Resources, Apparel, Paper, Packaging & Printing, Transportation, Commercial Services, Industrial & Automotive, Real Estate, and Travel & Leisure.[5]
The firm is active in private equity investment, lending, specialty finance, real estate investment, and securities trading.[1] In May 2011, Steve Feinberg noted that the firm also believes that residential mortgage-backed securities may present "a real opportunity for continued investment for quite a period of time"[6] and that there are opportunities in buying assets from European banks. The firm’s current investment portfolio includes more than 40 companies around the world with an average hold time of more than five years.[7]
Cerberus maintains the Cerberus Operations & Advisory Company LLC (COAC) of senior operating executives to support the firm’s due diligence and assist its portfolio companies.[8]
Cerberus Operations and Advisory Company LLC (COAC)

Cerberus utilizes an operations team of over 100 professionals, approximately half of which are currently employed by portfolio companies, to help source, analyze and monitor portfolio investments. Activities performed by members of COAC in the area of control private equity investments, include due diligence, acquisition planning, board membership, special project staffing and, where appropriate, occupying interim or full-time open positions.[8]
Recent Transactions and Initiatives

On March 8, 2012, an affiliate of Cerberus closed its acquisition of a controlling interest in AT&T Advertising Solutions and AT&T Interactive, which were combined into a new entity YP Holdings LLC. AT&T received approximately $750 million in cash, a $200 million note and a 47-percent equity interest in YP Holdings LLC. David Krantz, former CEO and president of AT&T Interactive, was named CEO of YP and will lead the company’s overall strategy and operations. YP includes YP.com and the YPmobile
05-18-2012, 10:37
palepainter

And for the sake of sucking up more bandwidth here,

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/10/george-soros-gun-grab/

Home • Ask FactCheck • George Soros’ Gun Grab?
George Soros’ Gun Grab?

Posted on October 21, 2011
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Q: Does George Soros own the company buying many firms that make guns and ammunition?
A: No. Contrary to a fanciful claim made in a viral email, the Freedom Group is not linked to the liberal billionaire. The National Rifle Association says the real owners are “strong supporters” of gun rights.
FULL QUESTION
Searched your archives and viral stories, couldn’t find. Is there any truth to this?

I googled “Cerberus capital management freedom group buying guns” and found many stories about this. Without lots of research, it looks like it is true!
For the last several years a company called “The Freedom Group” has been buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers.
Some of these companies are:
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FULL ANSWER
The anonymous author of this chain letter asks why the media haven’t reported that George Soros is connected to a company that is buying a lot of other companies that make guns and ammunition. The answer to that question is simple: because it isn’t true.
Soros doesn’t own Cerberus Capital Management, a private equity firm founded in 1992 by Stephen Feinberg and William Richter. Both Feinberg and Richter currently serve as two of the firm’s senior managing directors. And Feinberg, also the firm’s chief executive officer, is an avid hunter.
Soros, a billionaire philanthropist and known supporter of Democratic causes, isn’t even one of the company’s 26 senior executives. But the firm’s senior executives do include former Republican Vice President Dan Quayle and former Republican Treasury Secretary John Snow.
It’s true, however, that Cerberus Capital Management owns Freedom Group, a leading company in the manufacturing and marketing of guns and ammunition. And it’s also true that in recent years Freedom Group has acquired many of the firearms and ammunition manufacturing companies mentioned in the email, including Bushmaster Firearms (in April 2006), Remington (in May 2007) and Marlin (in January 2008). But that’s about all the author of this latest viral message gets right.
It has even been taken apart online by none other than the National Rifle Association, the largest gun-rights lobbying organization in the United States. The NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action called the rumor “completely false and baseless.”

NRA-ILA, Oct. 14: Recently, an old rumor regarding Cerberus–the private equity firm that owns Freedom group, a holding company that in turn owns a number of firearms manufacturers, including Remington, Marlin, Bushmaster, and DPMS–was in some way tied to George Soros.
This rumor is completely false and baseless.
NRA has had contact with officials from Cerberus and Freedom Group for some time. The owners and investors involved are strong supporters of the Second Amendment and are avid hunters and shooters.
In reality, at no time has George Soros ever been a part of the ownership group of Freedom Group or Cerberus, and as a privately traded corporation, there is no possibility that he will be in the future.
This unsubstantiated rumor has caused a great deal of unnecessary concern for gun owners. NRA-ILA urges our members to take great care before repeating baseless rumors found on the Internet.
So, there’s no need to pass this one on to “all your freedom loving friends” as the email asks.
– D’Angelo Gore