legal or illegal for the CO and surrounding areas?
(sorry if this has been posted before)
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legal or illegal for the CO and surrounding areas?
(sorry if this has been posted before)
Legal.
legal in CO. Can't vouch for other states surrounding.
Illegal in Wyoming
Legal in KS. as of last July also.
for anything, or what about varmint or predator? (I have friends in the 307)Quote:
Originally Posted by henpecked
I didn't know you could hunt with suppressed weapons, that's awesome!
my first form 4 got approved, so I'm looking to take care of a couple of critters in/around anywhere I'm located.
Most DWM's out there do not believe that suppressors are legal or if they do, will nonetheless be suspicious of any one possessing one in the field. You will be harrassed if one encounters you.
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Originally Posted by TheBelly
Illegal to hunt anything including praire dogs and coyotes
I don't know why it would/should be illegal, as long as the device is legally owned. You're just protecting your hearing is all. But anyone who uses one for poaching or such should be strung up by the balls.
In Colorado it is legal to hunt with a suppressor, one of the few states where it is.
As of April 2012...
http://www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/pdf...OMPILATION.pdf
Great info! It's amazing how many states it IS legal in!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoser
it is advisable to have the tax stamp with you at all times, weather hunting or not, when using the suppressor. I've not run into a game warden yet while hunting with my can on.
In a lot of Scandinavian nations local areas demand you use a suppressor for noise pollution.
Just got approved in Texas.
One of these days, I'll get one.
In states where it is illegal, it is a measure against poaching. Just like having a loaded rifle in your vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
Or a copy of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TRnCO
The originals live in the safe.
It is REQUIRED to have according to the letter I got from Bob Thompson/Acting Chief of Wildlife law enforcement, Colorado Parks and Wildlife.Quote:
Originally Posted by TRnCO
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Originally Posted by Neutron
It is required to have the stamp with the item when out of the house. I have copies in my range bag as it would not be the first time i was 1/2 way there and went [Bang]#$%^&*, turn around.
what was the actual law/ordinance that was cited in your letter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neutron
in any case, sounds like I've got a use for the middle of my MOE grip now....
Forget any dow ord, NFA items MUST have the documentation with the said part when out & about. I made reduced size copies that fit in my wallet.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBelly
Yep did the same. Might need a magnifying glass but they are always there!Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
my apologies, I think I didn't state the situation correctly that I wanted the ordinance for:
If I get stopped by DOW, I can very easily produce a copy of the form, no problem.
What if Trooper McTuffNutz tells me it's illegal to hunt with them in (insert state name here)..?
Hoser's link says, yes it's legal, but it doesn't give the relevant section. The other side of that is that Trooper McSwizzleStick must cite me for breaking some law or ordinance, then the responsibility is on me for going to court and proving Trooper McClamBake wrong. Sounds like a PITA.
I'll just hunt at night, with NVGs, from my car. [Muaha]
TheBelly, no one can tell you the ordinance that allows you to hunt with a suppressor in Colorado. It does not exist.
There is no statute or regulation to makes it illegal.
That's the way criminal codes are written. To give notice of what is forbidden.
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Originally Posted by spqrzilla
So what you're sayin' is... I could totally play TactiCool Sniper Guy and shoot living things..... [ROFL1]
18-12-102. Possessing a dangerous or illegal weapon - affirmative defense
(1) As used in this section, the term "dangerous weapon" means a firearm silencer, machine gun, short shotgun, short rifle, or ballistic knife.
(2) As used in this section, the term "illegal weapon" means a blackjack, gas gun, metallic knuckles, gravity knife, or switchblade knife.
(3) A person who knowingly possesses a dangerous weapon commits a class 5 felony. Each subsequent violation of this subsection (3) by the same person shall be a class 4 felony.
(4) A person who knowingly possesses an illegal weapon commits a class 1 misdemeanor.
(5) It shall be an affirmative defense to the charge of possessing a dangerous weapon, or to the charge of possessing an illegal weapon, that the person so accused was a peace officer or member of the armed forces of the United States or Colorado National Guard acting in the lawful discharge of his duties, or that said person has a valid permit and license for possession of such weapon.
True...it doesn't say you HAVE to carry it with you. However, if you dont you'll probably be arrested for violating this law, and then you'll have the joyus experience of trying to get your property back after you show you possesed a valid permit.
Being found to be in possession of a "dangerous weapon" (i.e. suppressor) without having any paperwork with you to show that you are allowed to have it will give Johnny Law probable cause to place you under arrest for a class 5 Felony. You'll beat the charges later, but why get sent to jail and then go through the fun of trying to get your stuff back from the agency that will have it in evidence. That isn't a fun process.
In short, CARRY YOUR FORM 1 OR 4 WITH YOU!!! (or a copy)
Really? That's what you took from my comment?Quote:
Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0
Hunting with a can has nothing to do with being a "tacitCool sniper guy"
Try, not needing hearing protection while shooting prairie dogs and not scaring coyotes out of the area you are hunting them in. Just to name a few.
Bingo!Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoWyo
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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0
several of us on here do hunt, and a few of us hunt with suppressors. do you have a mall ninja forum to troll
Hear, hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7
An acquaintance of mine (from the net) and I started this project to document the states where "Hunting with a Suppressor" was legal, specifically what the law was in each state: Prohibited, Non-Game Animals Only, All Game. It is based on the Gemtech document posted earlier in this thread.
http://i39.tinypic.com/33p655e.png
This map was last updated on April 2, 2012 (as timestamped).
That would be fantastic for busting song dogs.
You can't even own a suppressor in Wyoming?
Nice map! Kinda surprising some of the states that totally ban them, some others, not so surprising.
yes you can own them there, just not possess while hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Irving,Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I know you can own a suppressor in WY. There was an MG shoot up in Casper this last weekend.
What the map addresses is (in this case) is if either possession is prohibited or hunting with a suppressor is prohibited. Those two situations are combined in the map, with respect to hunting with a can, as they are the same (i.e. you can't do it). The map's primary purpose is to address whether you can hunt with a can, and what you can hunt (varmints/non-game, or game and non-game animals).
I hope this makes it clear.