Folks, it ain't over yet. SB 34

Just when we got to thinking the fat lady had sung, along come a couple of turncoat Republican senators to shove a sock in her mouth.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=2643

http://www.rmgo.org/alerts/2007-kestertaylor.shtml

Whether you live in their districts or not, please contact Sens. Kester and Taylor and let them know how you feel about them turning their backs on their party and law-abiding gun owners in the state (be polite but firm).

Senator Ken Kester: (303) 866-4877
Senator Jack Taylor: (303) 866-5292

These guys need to see the light and vote with their own party on this issue.

There is someone else very important to call - especially if you live in his district:

Andy McElhany
http://www.state.co.us/gov_dir/leg_d...bers/sen12.htm

// rant on
He's the senate MINORITY leader. If he wants to stay in the MINORITY, I can't think of a better way than to let his tribe wander off the reservation on issues so pertinent to a key party constituency. It's called party discipline. He can't make these liberals vote with us, but he can make an example of them if they don't.

When it comes to our civil rights, I have zero tolerance for RINOs.
//rant off

Only one of the three have an email address. I do believe this isn't the 80's anymore and an email account posted for people to express their views should be mandatory. [bs]

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Originally Posted by robsterclaw

Only one of the three have an email address. I do believe this isn't the 80's anymore and an email account posted for people to express their views should be mandatory. [bs]

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I hate to burst anybody’s bubble but email is a joke and means nothing. Any idiot can take ten seconds to write and email and for that reason they mean nothing.

If you really want to make a dent you need to write a letter. Yes I know it is inconvenient and you have to buy a stamp. However it will have ten times the effect of any email.

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Originally Posted by HunterCO

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Originally Posted by robsterclaw

Only one of the three have an email address. I do believe this isn't the 80's anymore and an email account posted for people to express their views should be mandatory. [bs]

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I hate to burst anybody’s bubble but email is a joke and means nothing. Any idiot can take ten seconds to write and email and for that reason they mean nothing.

If you really want to make a dent you need to write a letter. Yes I know it is inconvenient and you have to buy a stamp. However it will have ten times the effect of any email.

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But why is a letter more effective than an email? Just because it is a physical thing that took more effort than an email??? How still is that more effective in a politician's eyes?

I have to agree with Hunter and I've heard this from several politicians and friends who are lobbiest. Email hits them like a flood and they on the whole don't take it with the same import that they do when a person takes the time to actually write and mail a letter. It was suggested that it be typed/printed - most of us know our handwriting is awful anyway - and signed. They actually seem to place more value in that than email or phone calls for some reason. Hell, take a morning off of work if you can and go see them on the hill.

Still, that being said, if email is the way you can find time to contact them, it's still something. I know that I was surprised when Nancy Spence took the time to write me back the first time. Now she and I exchange email at least once a week or so.

+1000 to what Badshot said.

Look at it like this email is cyber space and imagine you checked your email every day only to find hundreds upon hundreds of emails. It is not real hard to read a few bitches and click a mouse and make them all go away. It's not real hard to have a auto response set up and one click of a mouse you responded.

On the other hand imagine going to work and finding hundreds of letters piled on your desk. You can't just click a mouse and make them go away can you? Not to mention it is kind of hard to ignore somebody that is compassionate enough to write a letter. It's even harder to ignore hundreds if not thousands of people compassionate enough to write a letter.

Yes it is a physical interaction and because of human nature it will have a much greater impact. I am by no means telling anybody not to email or call I am just saying if you want to hit them hard write a letter. It does not have to be hand written I use ms word.

BadShot and HunterCO,

There is no denying the power of snail mail in these situations. Letters can't be ignored simply by virtue of their physical presence.

However, we have to act quickly on this. The third reading of this bill may very well occur today and letters that arrive on their desks next week aren't going to be worth very much if that is the case.

Again, please call these three (email if you can/must) and change their minds and votes.

Better hurry and make phone calls, they may vote on this today.

M2MG

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Originally Posted by BadShot

Hell, take a morning off of work if you can and go see them on the hill.

Still, that being said, if email is the way you can find time to contact them, it's still something. I know that I was surprised when Nancy Spence took the time to write me back the first time. Now she and I exchange email at least once a week or so.

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Not to hijack the thread, this kind of make for an interesting idea. How about a COAR "field trip" to the capital with a bunch of us paying a visit to our lawmakers so they can see there are real people behind our emails, phone calls, and letters.

Just a thought

M2MG

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Originally Posted by M2MG

Better hurry and make phone calls, they may vote on this today.

M2MG

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Snail mail and smoke signals aren't going to stop this in the senate. They all still have phones. Let's clog some telco lines.

BTW, that snail mail suggestion is dated in these days of postal irradiation. The letter you send to your congress critter in DC may not arrive in their office for three weeks or longer.

Email AND call if it's important. Then follow up with a snail mail if it makes you feel better. Believe me, the staff will let the politico know if they're inundated with calls.

Another tactic is to call the Republican party's office in their county if one exists. Suggest your contributions may be better spent with the Libertarians. Money is the mother's milk of politics. A broad frontal attack that get's the insiders spun up can have a profound effect on the politicians.

I'm all for making phone calls, sending emails, smoke signals, and even carrier pigeons if it will help. Just one thing, who do we call? There are always people who are in favor of a bill, against a bill, and the fence sitters.

My Rep is Betty "I never met a gun I didn't hate" Boyd, and even though I still call her, she never votes against her anti gun money. We need to call those who will make the difference in the final vote, the fence sitters.

Why isn't the NRA, GOA, RMGO, or someone telling us who to contact?

Anyone have any ideas??

M2MG

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My Rep is Betty "I never met a gun I didn't hate" Boyd
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M2MG

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You have my condolences as she is my Rep, too.

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Originally Posted by M2MG

I'm all for making phone calls, sending emails, smoke signals, and even carrier pigeons if it will help. Just one thing, who do we call? There are always people who are in favor of a bill, against a bill, and the fence sitters.

My Rep is Betty "I never met a gun I didn't hate" Boyd, and even though I still call her, she never votes against her anti gun money. We need to call those who will make the difference in the final vote, the fence sitters.

Why isn't the NRA, GOA, RMGO, or someone telling us who to contact?

Anyone have any ideas??

M2MG

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They are. The following email went out to all CSSA members. The CSSA is the state level NRA organization. If you subscribe to NRA alerts at nraila.org, you also should have received the alert on this bill.

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From the NRA-ILA

Last Stand to Prevent Attack on Right-To-Carry in Colorado!

Please Contact Your State Senators Today!

Senate Bill 34, sponsored by State Senator John Morse (D-11), passed on second reading today, in the Colorado Senate.
If enacted, non-resident concealed carry permits will no longer be honored if the address on the holder's identification is different than the state where the permit was issued. For example, a Florida permit issued to a non-resident will not be recognized in Colorado. No demonstrated need has been presented to justify SB34, legislation that will potentially threaten reciprocity agreements. This bill will invalidate non-resident permit holders as well as create second-class citizens out of Colorado residents.

Two State Senators, Senators Ken Kester (R-2) and Jack Taylor (R-8), originally committed to vote against this legislation and are now considering changing their position at the last minute.

There is one last vote to try to kill Senate Bill 34 in the Senate.

PLEASE CONTACT SENATORS KESTER AND TAYLOR AND RESPECTFULLY URGE THEM TO OPPOSE SB34!

State Senator Ken Kester can be reached at (303) 866-4877 or via email, ken.kester.senate@state.co.us.

State Senator Jack Taylor can be reached at (303) 866-5292.


Also, please continue contacting your State Senator at (303) 866-2316 and
respectfully urge him or her to oppose SB34.


To find further contact information or help identifying your legislators please use the "Write Your Representative" feature found at www.NRAILA.org.

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Here is how you find out who is who in the way of your rep's..

http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/


Just because a rep is anti-gun doesn't mean that we shouldn't remind them that they have a duty to all of their constituents and that we are watching and taking note of their actions in all things.

I personally am not just pro-active on gun issues, but also educational issues because of my youngest having Autism. I am just saying that it is good to be active with them over more than a single issue!

On a side note, I'm all for making a class trip.. hell if we have enough interest I'll see if I can get Nancy Spence to sponsor us as a group and see if we can get her staff to help us arrange the meetings with the other house and senate reps.

The bill was supposed to come up yesterday. Then today. Now its held over again until tomorrow. They are having problems getting votes, folks. Something is happening and our tactics may be working, but we are NOT out of the woods by any means!!.

Senate President and nazi gun hater FitzGerald is now twisting the arms of the Democrats that sided with us. We need to buck them up. These Democrat Senators are standing up to withering pressure from their donors and colleagues:

Please call Democrat Senators Tochtrop (303-866-4863), Hagedorn (303-866-4879), Isgar (303-866-4884) and Schwartz (303-866-4871) and thank them for supporting law-abiding gun owners!

RINO contacts that resurrected this awful bill:
Senator Ken Kester can be reached at (303) 866-4877 or via email, ken.kester.senate@state.co.us.
Senator Jack Taylor can be reached at (303) 866-5292.

Both are now denying the reports over at RMGO that FitzGerrald lobbied them to change their votes. They are now blaming it on sheriffs in their districts. Perhaps you are friends with a sheriff that can give them a call as a favor. Here's the map of their districts. Kester is District 2 (SE Colorado) and Jack Taylor is District 8 wich includes Rout County and Steamboat Springs. Hey, Sheriffs have to run for office too!

http://192.70.175.79/State/map.asp?s...lf&cat=1&map=3

This bill passed the Senate and is now in the House call your reps in the house. We really need to kill the BS bill. :evil: