New No-Hands holding law in TN?

So we all know the word- I find it to be about the dumbest form of education ever: Abstinence. When this is taught as the "best" option it just strikes me as really really stupid. First off, how ignorant and naive do you have to be to think that teaching kids only-abstinence will really do anything positive?

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Spurred by a classroom demonstration involving a sex toy, Tennessee recently enacted a pro-abstinence sex education law that is among the strictest in the nation.
The most debated section of the bill bars educators from promoting "gateway sexual activity." But supporters seemed too squeamish during floor debate to specify what that meant, so critics soon labeled it the "no holding-hands bill."

The sex ed law now uses the criminal statute on sexual assault to specify acts — such as groping or fondling — that fall under "gateway sexual activity." It also says family life curriculum must not "display or conduct demonstrations with devices specifically manufactured for sexual stimulation."
"I teach my child the power of abstinence," said Glover, whose complaint spurred the drafting of the legislation. "When you start bringing sex toys in, at a point you're stimulating the kids to have sex."
"I think that is unique in that rather than this legislation just saying there needs to be an emphasis on abstinence education, it also prohibits too explicit sex education from being either put in schools under the guise of abstinence education, or in opposition to an abstinence education program," she said.

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TN is getting pretty dumb. The whole thing started when a teacher used a dildo to accurately show how to put on a condom... while yes a little over the top, education here folks, not trying to arouse the children. If you go with abstinence only education then you're going to be surprised when teens get pregnant because they're going to have sex- humans are very sexual creatures and those years are when you first start getting those "funny feelings." Teach them safe sex, not stupid abstinence only BS, and certainly don't make fondling a crime! [Bang]
Read more here: http://news.yahoo.com/critics-blast-...141632130.html

This is why it should be taught at home instead of at school. Never agreed with sex ed being taught in school. To me it always promoted it in a way.

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Originally Posted by onebadfx4

This is why it should be taught at home instead of at school. Never agreed with sex ed being taught in school. To me it always promoted it in a way.

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I agree 110%! When the time comes that I have kids, and they reach that age, I'm going to respectfully decline allowing a public school to teach them about the birds and the bees. I remember in school during the days of "sex ed" not learning a whole lot except for the biology. They told us to use condoms and that's about it. I'd rather teach my kids my way. [Beer]

Thats exactly how I remember the class being. I def dont want some moron promoting sex to my 3 sons. When they are old enough, they will get "the talk" my dad gave me. Which ended in, "dont put your pecker in every chick you meet cause thats how you catch something, and if you knock a girl up, I'll wring your neck so dont be stupid."

His advice worked for me. [ROFL1]

I like the Bill Engvall standup talking about "the talk" to his son.

went something along the lines of him sitting his son down to have the talk and says "son...why don't you just tell me what you know and I'll fill in all the blanks and answer your questions at the end".

Before he knew it, he had a notepad out writing things down and going "you can really do that"?[ROFL1]

Kids will figure it out. teaching them to be safe is the biggest thing.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

So we all know the word- I find it to be about the dumbest form of education ever: Abstinence. When this is taught as the "best" option it just strikes me as really really stupid.

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I'll disagree with you here. Abstinence is the best option. But, like you said, kids will be kids. Sex-ed is best taught at home.

Sex ed absolutely SHOULD be taught in schools. Listen to Loveline for one night and you'll find out just how uneducated people are about sex.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Sex ed absolutely SHOULD be taught in schools. Listen to Loveline for one night and you'll find out jyst how uneducated people are about sex.

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I understand your point, but parents should be teaching their kids this stuff. School shouldn't be replacing parents.

We have our first kid on the way. I don't ever want to see him/her in the same classroom with a dildo under any cirsumstance. Completely inappropriate. Schools should not be teaching teens how to put on condoms. There should be separate voluntary classes for this if parents want their kids to learn this or the parents could actually do some parenting and quit abdicating to the public youth indoctrination centers (oops, I meant public schools).

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Originally Posted by Veritas

We have our first kid on the way. I don't ever want to see him/her in the same classroom with a dildo under any cirsumstance. Completely inappropriate. Schools should not be teaching teens how to put on condoms. There should be separate voluntary classes for this if parents want their kids to learn this or the parents could actually do some parenting and quit abdicating to the public youth indoctrination centers (oops, I meant public schools).

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To solidify your argument- Everything I need to know about life I learned in Kindergarten, except for physics, that shit I learned before Kindergarten. [Coffee]

If kids spent more time working on farms, no one would have to teach them anything except how to bandage a blister or two. Nature films without the films [Flower]

Sex, birth, and death. All natural. [Beer]

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Originally Posted by Irving

Sex ed absolutely SHOULD be taught in schools. Listen to Loveline for one night and you'll find out just how uneducated people are about sex.

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Have you seen the average reading and math scores for most public schools? Are you really sure you want them teaching kids about sex? I'm just sayin'

How much instruction is needed to use a condom? The hardest part (pun intended) is buying the damn things, and that is way easier now than it was thirty or more years ago. [ROFL3]

Imagine if the sex ed teacher had used a carrot (or cucumber for some of us....) instead of a dildo....

TN to Ban Selling Carrots

Parents need to do the job at home teaching about certain topics, I don't mind the school "Health" classes but my own experience is that the kids won't really pay attention because frankly they are kids. The biggest thing I don't understand is why the teacher brought in a dildo? Why could she not use a banana or her fingers, that IMO was inappropriate.

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Originally Posted by cstone

Have you seen the average reading and math scores for most public schools? Are you really sure you want them teaching kids about sex? I'm just sayin'

How much instruction is needed to use a condom? The hardest part (pun intended) is buying the damn things, and that is way easier now than it was thirty or more years ago. [ROFL3]

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I just realized something- if memory serves correct... I do believe the instructions for putting the condom on your one-eyed-dragon are actually on the packaging... Maybe not on the wrapper but on the box? I just remember being younger seeing a poorly drawn diagram on a box of Trojans. [LOL] So teacher just became obsolete! Seriously, what is there in schools that a decently made film on the internet can't teach. I consider myself self-taught- "Okay, one day a woman is going to take her clothes off in front of you, here's what you do with it..." Now, where can I buy a CD of that poorly made music? Brown-chicken, brown-cow![ROFL1]