First it was DHS and now the national weather service. Do they know something we don't? Maybe it's time for more group buys.
http://www.infowars.com/national-wea...ammo-purchase/
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First it was DHS and now the national weather service. Do they know something we don't? Maybe it's time for more group buys.
http://www.infowars.com/national-wea...ammo-purchase/
1) Infowars.com ...seriously?
2) 46000 rounds is a lot? Since when?
3) WTF doe the NWS need with ammo? Training/equipping security guards and maintenance personnel for remote weather monitoring facilities, maybe?
Lol calm down sweetheartQuote:
Originally Posted by TFOGGER
Boulder Colorado isn't remote. I can't answer as to the other locations listed on the document.
16,000 to Boulder
8000 to Ellsworth, ME
8000 to New Bedford, MA
24000 to St Petersberg, FL
6000 to Wall, NJ
I heard this earlier as well. Does NWS have some sort of Sever Weather Response/Rescue Team or anything like that? After what some of the people were doing in the aftermath of Katrina, I would want to be armed going into an area after a catastrophic event.
The Boulder office folks service remote stations all over the Rocky Mountain west, including some that are 2-3 day hikes from the nearest paved road. I'm willing to be that some members here have more .40 than that on hand...[Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by WETWRKS
Infowars is great for sensationalizing stuff. Like the mainstream media, but in reverse.
They are probably just gonna shoot the breeze...
Very interesting ammo purchases by various government agencies it makes you pause and think a little....
I keep coming back to the question...what is Obamas stance on this? He is anti gun....so I wonder how he feels about arming all these people that he cannot controll.
Saw on Drudge a clarification was sent to the Washington Post by NOAA, claiming a "clerical error" and the order was for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement.
Site was linked from Drudge and now I go back and see they have issued am update to the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal
Still keeping my Tin Foil hat nearby, just in case.
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Originally Posted by DSull
The .gov agencies are bulk buying because of price. The orders are not for 100K at one time, but spread out over the time of the contract. The feds do it every few years, you know bulk buying in order to secure a better price.
They also like, school districts and city transportation dept.s bulk bid on fuel to lock in a price that guarantees X price spread out over 1 year. No one complains or gets a case of the noids when denver buys 1 million gallons of fuel.
The validity remains in question, but it did claim that DHS has, across two orders, purchased 1.2Billion rounds.
That's a lot of ammo.
Need to fight off those "killer storms" :)
Why DHS? DHS runs most of Uncle Sugar's LE training programs, including both FLETC campuses. Two police academies of that size will use a LOT of pistol ammo.
(Why they need enough cops to use that much training ammo is a different question and I don't see the answer as being too terribly convincing.)
Why NOAA fisheries LE office? 46K isn't that much. I'd be willing to bet that any six people on this site could use that up in a month.
FWIW, the NOAA campus in Boulder has a small police contingent of its own. I think there's something like 10-20 people there.
(Assuming that infowars isn't FoS, as usual.)
In this particular case, I am all for government excess. Years ago people stood in line for the free government cheese handouts. Well, I will be standing in line waiting for my share of 1.2 Billion rounds of .40 S&W [Coffee]
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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
The Dept of Commerce (NOAA's momma) has its own police force, as does just about every federal agency, and NOAA has several uniformed services including their own fleet of ships and aircraft. Relax guys, worry about DHS' 1.2M rounds and leave the 46K to NOAA alone :)
1.2B, not M.Quote:
Originally Posted by bogie
The comment about buying in bulk, receive over time makes a lot of sense.
Still, 1.2B can't all be for duty carry/use. Why are we paying for that many carry loads for targe practice (if true)
Well played[Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
Some federal ranges require frangible, lead free ammunition. Most requals and regular practice is with duty ammunition. Train like you fight. I certainly never feel like I get enough ammunition issued to me [Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayock
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Originally Posted by Jayock
The guys i know @ FLETC [ a few:)]run drills day in day out, depending on who is training and why. All depts who train there run full a spectrum of firearms, semi [ long and hand] and select fire [short and long]. My brother was known to run 3-5k min. over the weekend, that was hand gun, add what he fired through the MP5's and other entry weapons, it's a lot.
How many here have attended advanced if not basic live fire classes where the requirements were
250 rounds of handgun
500-1000 rifle.
These were basic and bringing more was the norm for most students.
Multiply 1-2k of ammo per student x 2-5 days, times year round training, times number of training centers throughout the country. It adds up real quick. Do not forget this MASSIVE AMMO buy you're freaking out over, also includes the LE's and agents in the field, worldwide.
FWIW: iT is interesting how much worrying and hand wringing there is here because the .gov made a massive [ to say the least] ammo order.
YET.......No one here blinks over buying 1- 2 K of ammo online. "YOU KNOW HOLMES HAD SIX THOUSAND ROUNDS OF AMMO"!!!! The media screamed
Yet we agreed 6K was nothing.
Oh The Irony
oops! Just a little off...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayock
Wish I could afford to train with the ammo I carry...
Wait, I do afford it, for them...
How do you compare 6k rounds to billions? Thats just stypid!Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
You mispelt that's, moran!Quote:
Originally Posted by 10mm-man
Hypothetically lets say you could cure stupid with more education, then you could cure Freedom with more ammunition. Makes sense right? The one thing the government needs are people to do the dirty work. The few can control government and make laws but they will never (themselves) take your guns personally, they will try to use others. Maybe Noaa will step up and take my pistol from my cold dead hand.
Just did a quick google search and I came up with about 200,000 people working for DHS.
1,200,000,000,000 rounds / 200,000 people = 6,000,000 rounds per DHS employee.
Sorry Jim, but 1.2 billion rounds is a lot of damn ammo. I think the proper terminology for it is a "metric fuck-ton" of ammo....[ROFL1]
Maybe I need to acquire a .40sw[Tooth]
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Originally Posted by bryjcom
No way man. I've got first dibs on the contract over runs [Coffee]
Then I challenge you to a duel!!!! I'll let you use my 1858 remy revolver and I get to use my 1911. Sound fair?Quote:
Originally Posted by cstone
I was just thinking that...Quote:
Originally Posted by bryjcom
Yeah, but my reasoning was completely different than what Cstone was thinking..... [Tooth]Quote:
Originally Posted by keylay31
Obviously, the best SHTF weapon would be an AK chambered in .40 S&W. That way you can pilfer all the unused ammo after every battle.
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Originally Posted by Irving
When I ventured up to Wyoming to a gun show a few years back I was pondering the possibilities of acquiring a AK parts kit chambered in 5.56.
I was hesitant cause I didn't want to add yet another caliber to my never ending stock list.
Gun dealer says, " Yeah, but when the revolution happens you can pick up ammo off of all the dead cops.... They all shoot 5.56"
I ended up buying the kit...[Coffee]
Anybody know a good .40sw to get???[ROFL1]
Ditto. Same reason I like 9mm and 5.56.Quote:
Originally Posted by bryjcom
.58 caliber ball? One round each. I shoot first. You are on[Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by bryjcom
Irving, I can't imagine an AK in .40 S&W. I think I'm going to need a ruling from Rachel Ray of the AK. Would that round even cycle the action on most AKs?
Besides, I have my Kel Tec Sub 2000 in .40 to go with my Glock 22. I don't need anything else with a long barrel for a pistol caliber.
The more that gets bought, the more gets manufactured. The more made, should lower the price. Should be lots of once fired brass available as well.
Be safe.
1858 is a .45cal. I only got one so you get that, I'll get my 1911.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstone
People have made AKs chambered in .45acp. You make them as a blow back and not gas operated. People also make 7.62x25 blowback versions as well.
I'm sure someone some where has made one in 40sw. There is a guy on another board making a 50bmg AK from scratch. Its in the early stages but its coming along.
meh...you should see my basement[ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayock
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Originally Posted by sniper7
I don't think you could fit half a billion rounds of anything in your house.
You'll have to store the other half over at mine....
That's actually the story, and sentiment, that I was referring to/making fun of. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bryjcom