Doing the whole background, physical, polygraph thing for a job position in a vault tomorrow.
Anyone have any tips for the polygraph? I don't have anything to hide, but I've never done anything like this before.
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Doing the whole background, physical, polygraph thing for a job position in a vault tomorrow.
Anyone have any tips for the polygraph? I don't have anything to hide, but I've never done anything like this before.
5mg of Valium takes the edge off anything. A poly is easy once you relax, you have nothing to hide so go for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mevshooter
Just don't tell them about that time we went to Vegas and met that nice lady.Quote:
Originally Posted by mevshooter
Your hosed........ Just go ask Obammer for your share of the wealth, screw a job.........[LOL]Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
SON OF A.... SHUT. UP.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheInternet
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I'm white and a male so... yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by SideShow Bob
[Tooth]
Good luck dude I just got fucked by the Border Patrol on one. The racist ass Hispanic polygrapher had it out for whitey. Passed all parts until we reached national security. He said I was "bouncing" on terrorism questions. Fucker then had the audacity to say maybe it was my history with guns (I work at a gun store.) I'm appealing right now. Good luck bro.
Well, crap. That sucks. The piece of paper I signed says they are not allowed to ask any questions regarding "racial issue, sexual orientation issues, religious issues or political issues" and that if anyone tries I am supposed to report them. So... hopefully they don't ask any of those questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by flan7211
I was going to reply, but I never knew if I passed the one I took. I assume that I did, and that they didn't hire me for other reasons.
Bouncing??? Did he actually use that word? That's slang for showing an autonomic response to the question/answer, but not conclusive unless it scores high enough to show a certainty of deception. Basically, he's probabaly not very good at his job. "brainstorming" results are typical and the whole point of lifestyle poly questions. That's what the bouncing is. It shows you are trying to think of anything in the past that meets the criteria of the question. If the results are indeterminate, it's grounds for a retest with another examiner or a secondary test with the initial examiner.Quote:
Originally Posted by flan7211
Every agencies policies on testing is different, but the examiner is just as important as the questions.
Border Patrol told me to pound sand honestly. This fag was head of the BPA Union years ago so no one steps on his toes. Fuck em honestly. I was a top candidate until that too. Yes he used that term btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by SA Friday
You bounced when you typed this! [Tooth]Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
No, that was a straight up spike.[Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by jhood001
Let's just say that even when used correctly, there are certain words that you shouldn't use to answer questions on the written portion of the application.
No booze or drugs. Plenty of sleep. Relax. Listen to the questions that will be asked. They always go over them before they put the pressure on the cuff. Make sure you understand the question and what they want to know. Talk to the examiner honestly about any issues you are thinking about when you hear a question. Any decent examiner will rephrase the question or qualify it to try and focus on the issues they need to cover in the exam.
No one flunks on the machine. You either confess to something disqualifying before or after the questioning, or you show deception while on the machine. Whether you are being deceptive or there is something that a particular question is triggering in you mind, it pays to discuss that with the examiner.
If you convince the examiner that you are being honest and forthcoming, the exam won't be a problem. If the examiner thinks you are being dishonest, the only thing that can save you is at the quality control stage days if not weeks later when another examiner will rescore the charts.
The answers are YES or NO. Don't over think things. Relax. After enough polygraphs, the problem for some of us is staying awake during the test. [Coffee]
Be safe.
#1 - be honest
#2 - answer yes or no. don't get into explanations.
#3 - tell them to turn the heater off. (you will understand when you are in the chair).
#4 - breathe normally
#5 - have fun and enjoy it
+1 this ^^ and what cstone said.
CI, lifestyle, or both?
Relax & don't sweat it.
They play some mind games with you to make you on edge - don't let it get to you.
Definitely FOCUS but stay relaxed.
I've completed 2 full scopes, man, DO NOT DRINK COFFEE 12hrs before those things or anything else that contains caffine. Both times I did mine, they had to go into a findings investigation which didn't reveal shizzle, but I came out of there looking like someone dumped water on me...[Coffee]
damn recycled coffee
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Originally Posted by mevshooter
DON'T FART either, otherwise, you'll have to restart the whole damn thing...
Interesting polygraph scene in the movie "The Recruit".
Watch it AFTER your test, but BEFORE you get the results...for maximum paranoia effect.
Lasts for DAYS...works on your mind even worse if you fail your test.[ROFL1]
Seriously, relax and be yourself...best of luck.
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Originally Posted by mevshooter
Just remember to imagine the interviewer naked...
You will be nervous. That is ok. If you lie or try to hide something you will passed over. Good luck.
Don't panic when they ask you about animal question LMAO!!!!!, only say you was experimenting. LMAO. Relax you will be fine....
Tell the truth. believe its the truth and know in your mind that its went down EXACTLY like you tell it.
Do NOT hesitate or second guess yourself.
panic are you are hosed
This could also be a problem: the last one I had was done by a 5'9" statuesque redhead with a Victoria's Secret body and deep v-cut blouse. Difficult to concentrate when her breasts were heaving...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChadAmberg
I would have answered those questions soooooooooo slowly...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aardvark
"Those polygraphs normally take 20 minutes... why the heck were they in there for 3 hours?"
When they ask a question answer it...........don't pause like you are thinking of a BS answer. Idk I've never taken one. Hopefully they don't ask you if you've ever thought about sex with an under age girl because damnit she looked older while I was thinking about it until I got up close lol. J/K really.
I've taken that test...the answers are:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. No
6. Yes
7a. Yes
7b. No
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. No
11. No
12. No
13. Can you repeat the question?
13. No
14. Yes
15. No
The answers just repeat after that. I wrote them on my hand and refrenced them when ever I needed to. I guess it was open book ??
Just be honest. You're going to be nervous, and they're going to ask baseline questions... easy yes no.. your name is .. you were born in.. you love penis (don't screw that one up)..
Most places who do poly's are not looking for angels, we all have a past.. they're looking for HONESTY.
I like the "have fun" comment. The polygraph is many things, but fun is not one of them.
Like everybody has said they go over each question with you before hand so you already know what they will be asking you, and the answer. They do each set of questions twice to establish consistency. If you move too much or they feel like you are trying to mess with the results, they will make that set invalid and make you repeat the entire set of questions. Do not try to control your breathing or anything like that as they are able to tell when you are doing such things. Be honest, and as long as you don't have an unfavorable answer to any of their questions you will be fine.
I've only taken one and I was beyond nervous for it, but I did fine. I don't really have any type of past to speak of so I was fortunate in that aspect. The polygraph evaluator initially thought I was lying and trying to hide stuff but after running through the questions while hooked up he said he was confident I was telling the truth. Hired!
When you have done enough of them - they become a bit fun. Not that I ever look forward to mine every couple of years, but I no longer sweat them.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidicarus13
Big things:
1. Minimize your caffeine intake prior to the test.
2. Don't eat a big meal before the test.
3. Get a good night's sleep
4. Do things that improve your mood and state of mind the night before, whether it's watching a favorite (innocent) movie -- I'd stay away from spy thrillers and mysteries ;)
5. Don't look at the polygrapher as an enemy -- s/he has likely heard all kinds of garbage so isn't going to get excited when you admit to taking pens or paper from work or post-dating a check or performance review
Thats a good one [ROFL1][ROFL1][Beer]
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Originally Posted by coloccw
[Beer][Beer] I know you passed right????
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Originally Posted by mevshooter
I know you're not trying to cheat it so just read the bolded words.
http://sofrep.com/9806/are-fmri-mach...detector-test/
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Everyone knows about the polygraph. Funny enough, it was invented by William Moulton Marston who was also the mind that came up with the DC Comics character Wonder Woman. Now you know why she carries her “lasso of truth”! But familiarity with the polygraph also means that plenty of people know how to defeat or otherwise spoof the system. You can squeeze your butt cheeks together creating tension in the body that will throw off the readings. A tack can be placed in the shoe and pressed down on during questioning. In theory, the polygraph examiner can ask you to remove your shoes and sit on a pad that will detect your deception techniques but it’s too easy to just bite your tongue…literally.
You can also spoof the system by being brutally honest when the tester asks his control questions. You see, he has to catch you in a lie so that he can establish what you baseline reading looks like and then differentiate between when you tell the truth and when you tell a lie. If you answer all the control questions correctly, the tester will get frustrated and keep trying to trip you up and ask questions that are embarrassing enough that you are compelled to lie.
Can you imagine sitting there rigged up to a polygraph getting two hours of control questions thrown at you while the tester tries to catch you in a lie?
“Have you ever had sexual relations with a man, a woman, another man, a rodeo clown, and a farm animal at the same time?”
“…yes.”
I honestly have no idea how I did. At one point she said "you're brainstorming on the theft questions, is there something you need to tell me?" and I was honestly just tired and trying to stay awake. I was really trying to make sure there wasn't anything in my past that I forgot about.
I was so nervous for it, that my blood pressure sky rocketed and I failed the physical exam. So my wife took my blood pressure when I got home, AFTER everything has calmed down, and its fantastic.
What. The. Hell.
I effing hate doctors offices.
I want to meet the genius who thought scheduling a physical right after a polygraph was a good idea.
Sorry to hear that champ. Doctors suck and polygraphers suck worse.
I thought polygraph tests for emplyment were illegal in Colorado.