Denver's infringement on private property rights.

Regarding a private piece of land on Kipling south of 285.

I drive by this piece of land everyday. I have long thought how nice it would be to be the owner of this land. Apparently I was wrong. The owner is going through a major fight to protect his rights from Denver. It's one last private land hold-out in the area. And Denver doesn't like it. I'm not sure what any of us can do to help the owner of this land, but read his story to learn about how Denver is taking away his liberty.

http://laststandforfreedom.com/index.html

Wow. Read this report.

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Brownfields are abandoned or underutilized properties where expansion or redevelopment is complicated by either real or perceived environmental contamination......Cities also estimated that Brownfield properties comprised of 60,417 acres of land, representing potential new jobs and land tax revenue....owners would prefer to have the land remain idle and unused rather than turn these sites over for development.

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Forgive me, but that person's wording is very confusing. I don't fully understand what's going on. He's being forced to sell his property to make way for a park? He didn't even really say what 21 was all about.

Yes, not a great writer, just a guy trying to vent I suspect. Denver is not trying to get him to sell. What happened is that Denver thinks he isn't using the land up to it's potential and they are turning it into a park. He will still own it...it just has to be a park. So he can't build anything and neither can anyone else, basically removing any value from it.

Agenda 21 is some sort of tinfoil hat conspiracy regarding a UN document or something...that part is a little far fetched. However the interesting part is that there has been an effort and PLAN put in place by mayors around the country specifically targeting this kind of land and making strategies for how the cities could get access to it or use it better.

PS - link to UN Agenda 21

Holy WTF!

So if I want to have property... and do nothing with it except live there and someone else wants it for development I am screwed....


Something seriously STINKS of corruption

Broomfield raised taxes on a 1 acre parcel that is being used to store sand and gravel from 8,000 a tear to 28,000 a year.........Happens to be across 36 from the First Bank Center. 10 year plans show light rail park and ride there.

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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke

So if I want to have property... and do nothing with it except live there and someone else wants it for development I am screwed....

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Welcome to post-Kelo America.

This story and the subsequent links about Agenda 21 have me literally sick to my stomach.

Considering the source as the city of denver, this does not surprise me. I think Boulder County takes their ideas and implements them there also as Boulder County Open Space that you as a tax payer pay for, but cannot use.

Corruption is the only word that comes to mind.

The US supreme court ruled several years ago that governments can condemn land to get control of it and then force the owners to turn it over to a private developer to 'improve' for the price the developer wants to pay. Basically steal the land from private owner so a developer can make money from it. The River Point thing on the south west corner of Hampton and Santa Fe is a local example. There are several others in the Metro Denver area.

It's legalized stealing that violates the intent of the US Constitution that has been sanctioned by US Supreme Court.

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Originally Posted by zip

This story and the subsequent links about Agenda 21 have me literally sick to my stomach.

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^This, and yet another step on the path...

Tim is a retired Firefighter. He is one of the best guys I ever worked with. Sucks what's happening to him.

I still cant understand WTF? You people have lost sight of the 5 to 1 rule. When you deal with government it is 5 retards to 1 semi normal person. You must remember most lawyers fall into the group of 5.

Time for him to put it on the market....


For 100x the actual market value. Buy 10x the land somewhere not so close to a cesspool.

Its stuff like this that makes me think about all the "tin foil hat" comments. If your were to go back 50+ years and tell folks the destruction of our liberties that are taking place you would be no doubt be labeled as crazy "that could never happen in this country"

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Originally Posted by stevelkinevil

Its stuff like this that makes me think about all the "tin foil hat" comments. If your were to go back 50+ years and tell folks the destruction of our liberties that are taking place you would be no doubt be labeled as crazy "that could never happen in this country"

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OMG people.... This is far from original or a new world order development.

Johnson v. M'intosh, 1823 was a ruling from the Marshall SCOTUS and set the stage for govt land grabbing of native American lands to the present day. This has been happening since Columbus accidentally figured out his calculation of earth's circumference was severely F'ed up.

We've evolved from using war to take land we want to using rhetoric and law instead.

That land is probably only a huge liability to him anyway. He should have sold it to developers a long time ago and taken the money to the bank to buy an asset instead.

That being said, this is still bullshit of the highest degree.

Needs to buy a few pallets of sandbags, a few shovels, and a shit ton of ammo. Dig in and secure his property from the theives.

He should do what my boss did when they tried to expand the road onto his front lawn. He went to the city council meeting and said "my name is ---- ---- and I live at ----- ---------- and if one bulldozer touches my fence I'm gonna blow that son of a bitch up! Have a nice day"

They didn't touch his fence....[ROFL1]

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Originally Posted by SA Friday

OMG people.... This is far from original or a new world order development.

Johnson v. M'intosh, 1823 was a ruling from the Marshall SCOTUS and set the stage for govt land grabbing of native American lands to the present day. This has been happening since Columbus accidentally figured out his calculation of earth's circumference was severely F'ed up.

We've evolved from using war to take land we want to using rhetoric and law instead.

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KaChing!!

Imminent Domain is the card up every state, county, city & towns sleeve. Don't want to see or agree on the price we set, CONDEMNED. or ED is used to removed the legal owner from their property..

I have been fighting a similar fight with Denver for the last two years, so I can give a little bit of background to what is happening to this guy.

In 2010 Denver re-zoned the entire city. Some pieces of the city kept their original zoning and others were drastically changed. The zoning ordinance had a clause in it that allowed the current owner of a piece of land to revert back to the original zoning within 180 days of the new zoning taking affect. It sounds like Tim was able to get his property reverted to the old zoning, however, the new zoning will take affect if and when Tim sells the property.

So, nobody is trying to take his property (yet) with imminent domain. The problem is that his property value may have decreased considerably based on what the property can be used for by a new owner under the new zoning.

Now for the opinion: I have been to third world countries and can honestly say that the City Government of Denver is every bit as corrupt as anyplace on this planet. It is probably too late for this poor guy to do anything about his situation, but if he can find out who pushed for his land to be zoned as a park (and why) then he may be able to sue the city for damages.

Otherwise he can petition city counsel to re-zone his property to whatever he would like. That would be a huge uphill battle as he doesn't have any influence with the city.