New 2016 OBama movie

Saw this last night. I thought it was excellent. Dinesh Desouza seemed to me to be a reasonable person and drew reasonable conclusions backed up by facts. I hadn't considered his theory of what makes Beeho (BHO) tick before, but the explanation he puts forward does seem to explain much of Beeho's actions and behavior. I need to think about other things Beeho has said/done and test DeSouza's theory against that.

I do think that plain old liberalism does explain a lot of his actions, but not all. Although there is clearly consistent evidence of anti-Americanism in his words/deeds, it is more understandable (but not forgivable) in the context presented.

So far, I think this movie nails Beeho and gets to the core of his belief system. If I were Beeho, I would probably fear this movie more than all of the negative books combined. There are many people who can't be bothered to read a book, but will watch a movie in a heartbeat.

The theatre I saw it at (one of the large ones at AMC Promenade in Westminster) was absolutely packed, and the audience was not shy at booing and clapping for various items in the movie. I recommend it.

Singlestack

They have a show today in fort collins, tempted to go see it. Thanks for the review!

Saw it last week.
A must see.....now Im forced to see Paranorman in 3-F'nD!!!

I watched the Hannity interview last night with the film's writer, director, and Fox consultant on the film, and some of those folks that were in it. As much as I think Hannity is an idiot, there was some good Q&A mixed in with all the rhetoric.

Assuming you have a CHP, did you carry into the theater?

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Assuming you have a CHP, did you carry into the theater?

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I do, I didn't. Judging by the crowd and appearances, my guess is there were at least several carrying.

Singlestack

Apparently this was the #3 movie of the weekend, which is incredible for a documentary.

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Saw this last night. I thought it was excellent. Dinesh Desouza seemed to me to be a reasonable person and drew reasonable conclusions backed up by facts. I hadn't considered his theory of what makes Beeho (BHO) tick before, but the explanation he puts forward does seem to explain much of Beeho's actions and behavior. I need to think about other things Beeho has said/done and test DeSouza's theory against that.

I do think that plain old liberalism does explain a lot of his actions, but not all. Although there is clearly consistent evidence of anti-Americanism in his words/deeds, it is more understandable (but not forgivable) in the context presented.

So far, I think this movie nails Beeho and gets to the core of his belief system. If I were Beeho, I would probably fear this movie more than all of the negative books combined. There are many people who can't be bothered to read a book, but will watch a movie in a heartbeat.

The theatre I saw it at (one of the large ones at AMC Promenade in Westminster) was absolutely packed, and the audience was not shy at booing and clapping for various items in the movie. I recommend it.

Singlestack

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I hadn't even heard of this, what is the title?

"2016 OBama's America" or as I would subtitle it" Beeho: the beginning"

Singlestack

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I watched the Hannity interview last night with the film's writer, director, and Fox consultant on the film, and some of those folks that were in it. As much as I think Hannity is an idiot, there was some good Q&A mixed in with all the rhetoric.

Assuming you have a CHP, did you carry into the theater?

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I also saw the interview, but I think it was a different movie that is scheduled to open at the Republican National Convention. It showcased people who voted for Obama last time and swear they will not vote for him this time around. It should also cause folks with an open mind think long & hard before they cast their ballot.

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I also saw the interview, but I think it was a different movie that is scheduled to open at the Republican National Convention. It showcased people who voted for Obama last time and swear they will not vote for him this time around. It should also cause folks with an open mind think long & hard before they cast their ballot.

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It was about the same film. Those are some of the folks that are featured in the movie.

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"2016 OBama's America" or as I would subtitle it" Beeho: the beginning"

Singlestack

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I really need to check this out.

Wow... Just saw it last night, and holy crap, it scared me. If only 1/3 of those die-hard, nothing but Obama folks were to see this (with an open mind, but that's asking quite a bit) I think it would really raise an eyebrow or two. Very well made, and he takes an honest approach. He really did want to get to know him, and at times you almost wonder if Dinesh was concealing his conservatism in parts so he could try and see who Obama really is. I love the tag line at the very end: Obama- Love him, hate him, now you know him. I would reccommend this movie to everyone, liberal, conservative, libertarian, Tea Party, Occupy, whoever... Of course there already is an article trying to discredit Dinesh, but after reading it there are no facts to back up the author's claims that it's a propaganda film.

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at times you almost wonder if Dinesh was concealing his conservatism in parts so he could try and see who Obama really is.

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Dinesh D'Sousa is a well-known political writer and speaker and has been for at least a few years. I went and saw him talk at a public event at the Air Force Academy a few years ago about the threats and falacies of multiculturalism and moral reletavism. There is no way that Obama does not / did not know this during their interactions.

I'm hoping to see the movie this weekend.

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Dinesh D'Sousa is a well-known political writer and speaker and has been for at least a few years. I went and saw him talk at a public event at the Air Force Academy a few years ago about the threats and falacies of multiculturalism and moral reletavism. There is no way that Obama does not / did not know this during their interactions.

I'm hoping to see the movie this weekend.

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Yeah, I've seen a lot of his lectures online and read some of his essays- I was referring to the making of the film, I think there were times where people didn't know who he was so he didn't bother to explain in depth what his views are. Go see it... right now... don't let any cobras stand in your way- you are the HoneyBadger! You don't give a shit! [LOL]

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<snip> I think there were times where people didn't know who he was so he didn't bother to explain in depth what his views are. <snip>

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That was never a problem with Michael Moore, you could smell that corksoaker coming.

I understand what Ronin is talking about with Desouza burying some of his beliefs and trying to be fair and even-handed. He didn't go down the birther avenue at all, simply stating that Beeho was born in Hawaii and there were 2 birth announcements that week in the local papers.

The interview with Beeho's half-brother was interesting. Desouza brought up Beeho's speech comment that we should all be "our brothers keeper", and asked if the half-brother was helped in any way by Beeho. The half-brother responded that no he hadn't, but that Beeho had bigger things to worry about than him. That seemed to be a balanced way of looking at that...

Singlestack

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I understand what Ronin is talking about with Desouza burying some of his beliefs and trying to be fair and even-handed. He didn't go down the birther avenue at all, simply stating that Beeho was born in Hawaii and there were 2 birth announcements that week in the local papers.

The interview with Beeho's half-brother was interesting. Desouza brought up Beeho's speech comment that we should all be "our brothers keeper", and asked if the half-brother was helped in any way by Beeho. The half-brother responded that no he hadn't, but that Beeho had bigger things to worry about than him. That seemed to be a balanced way of looking at that...

Singlestack

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Exactly... It's not like a Moore "documentary" (I'd say video op-ed piece) where it is so slanted you get a little nauseous. He did try to honestly and fairly approach it, but obviously he knew that he was setting out to show that Obama is clearly not a good guy. I just don't understand all these people calling it propaganda, and saying he's only trying to discredit Obama. People did the same to Bush, Palin, McCain, anyone who runs for office is going to be put under the microscope. You can't get mad when they find dirt under their fingernails.