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How anybody can believe this president after all the lies... Simply amazing...
And yet, he still leads in the polls. So many in our populace now willing to sacrifice their freedoms and pride of self reliance in exchange for crumbs from the government sprinkled at their feet.
With close to 50 percent of the country paying no federal income tax at all, we're close to the point of no return, no saving the ship. It's win this election, or Obama will put so many more people on the dole we'll never be able to win again, until the financial colapse inevitably happens.
All I can say, folks, is you'd better get to the voting booth this November, EVERY ONE OF YOU! We're fortunate to live in a swing state where the race in neck and neck. Your vote wields great power. It could actually play a part in determining the election outcome. Few states, few voters, carry that much importance.
Puts it clearly into perspective I think.
So now, this, doesn't seem so inappropriate or inaccurate these days, now does it?...
I hope young Obama kicks old Obama's ass. Like evil superman vs good Clark Kent.
Romney won't be any better. I am voting Liberterian.
It's good you feel that way, so when your vote helps put Obama back in for another 4 years you won't be concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackthewall81
X2 probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackthewall81
and you'll find a lot more of us here.
While Im not really happy with either candidate, ONE of them will win. So if you want to vote for some obscure Libertarian candidate, go ahead but he/she will NOT win and we will be watching Obama's second innauguration in Jan.
7 of you last time I counted [Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodburbon
While I would like to vote libertarian. I would only do it if I thought they would have a chance of winning. But beating BHO is more important.
EXACTLY. A Libertarian candidate will get 2-3% of the vote MAYBE. That percent could make the difference in this crucial election. If you think the last 4 years were tough JUST WAIT IF HE GETS BACK IN OFFICE FOR 4 MORE YEARS !! We won't recognize what is left of it in 2016... seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by DOC
Hell - if Chuck Norris is even advocating voting against the Kenyan Commie then you'd better not risk voting against Chuck and risking him showing up on your doorstep next year... he has a list and will work his way through it one by one.
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You want me to vote republican? Good luck.
The Republican party used me. We played this game before. "OH MY GOSH WE CAN"T let ALGORE win, it'll destroy the country." "That flip flopper Kerry will destroy our country." "We can't let Obama win, it'll destroy our country".
Meanwhile they ran up our debt to unsustainable levels just like the Democrats.
Then when the tea party pops up and screams NO MORE. The Republican whores jump up and say " I know right! this is crazy we've got to stop them!"....but THEY DID IT.
EFF the republican party. You go "save the country"' and vote for those whores. I'm done playing the game and I don't give a rats ass if the candidate I end up supporting "doesn't have a chance".
Wolf has been cried many times in the past, but this time the wolf IS right out side the door. Disbelieve at your own peril. Hide upstairs in your room reading fairy tales, and let the guy currently living downstairs open the door with a smile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodburbon
And to all of you who "are pissed" or whatever with the Republicans and vowing to vote Libertarian this year- our buddy Ron put it best:Quote:
Originally Posted by jackthewall81
[Shake]
THIS! [Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by speedysst
We shouldn't be fighting over who the right candidate for our "conscience" is, we should be united under getting rid of the socialist who just wants us all to be sucking off the government tit...
Right on! Barry Hussein cannot have another 4. Regardless of what you think with Romney we cannot afford another term from that turd sandwich hold the bread.Quote:
Originally Posted by FastMan
When Obama Wins and the country doesn't collapse instantly I expect an "OK I was wrong, we were crying wolf again"[Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by FastMan
Then is it fair that if Obama wins and the country does collapse can we expect a heartfelt apology from you and the rest of the libertarians who decided this was yet another year to throw their votes away? Can we kick you in the nuts too? [Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodburbon
Ronin, you always jump into these conversations. why? You know we don't agree on this issue. You can not form a compelling enough argument to make me want to hold the vomit in my mouth long enough to push the button for a Republican.
Let's recap
Socialist
Gonna collapse the economy
But..but... the supreme court
You morons are gonna get him re-elected
I think that about covers it. Anything I missed?
Bring it on bud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
I have an opinion on the matter and honestly don't want to see you waste a vote, and an important one at that. I'm curious, what does voting for a Libertarian when you know they won't win, actually accomplish? Do you want chicken or beef? Neither, I don't support either, so I won't be eating lunch today. That's pretty much what you guys are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodburbon
So that's a yes? [Tooth]Quote:
Originally Posted by jackthewall81
That's precisely the attitude that has gotten us into trouble. The country isn't going to collapse instantly, that's part of Obama's plan. Who is doing better since he got elected? Who has more money? How are gas prices in comparison? After all of the negative he has done he still has people that stand behind him because it's slow and gradual demise. So if (I'm scared of a "when" there) he gets elected a second time within the first few months things will keep progressing exactly the same as they have been. You'll say, "I'll take my apology now thank you." Then four years down the road we will not be able to recognize the fundamentals that this country was raised on. We will all sit at home, look at our lonely Glock 19 that was issued to us by the government, and think, "I miss my freedom."Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodburbon
YOU GOT IT. But it's not going to collapse instantly. In 2016 we'll sit down and see if there is a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodburbon
Write down on paper what you expect the country to be like in 4 years. Seal it and stuff it in your desk drawer. We'll open it in 4 years when Hitlery is running for the presidency in 2016.
QE 3 will be announced prior to election. Small bounce. Fed will have to raise interest rates after that fails. Best case scenario hyper inflation/currency devaulation. Doesn't matter what ass clown gets electedQuote:
Originally Posted by T-Jet
Goodburbon, I'm 56 years old, and I've seriously never been more concerned for the future of our country. In the past I was much like you, thinking one political slime ball was as bad as the next, and that in reality it didn't matter all that much which one got in, that the country could weather them. This time it's so different, I feel it in my gut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodburbon
In the history of the US, we prior to Obama accumulated 10 trillion in debt, too much of which came under George's watch, but in under 4 years Obama has added another 6 trillion. He'll do it again in a second term, at least as much, bringing his total to over 12 trillion of new debt, more than all his predecessors combined, and the total national debt well into the 20's of trillions.
We can't sustain such a future of fiscal irresponsibility much longer, we're at a breaking point as it is. I don't know exactly how long it will be before we actually collapse, but I can guarantee you it will happen, likely sooner than later. Moody's just this morning issued a warning to our government that they will be downgrading our country's credit rating if we don't do something to address the problem. Every astute financial mind around the globe, and within our borders, knows we're heading for financial disaster.
Romney was not my first choice. He's an unknown commodity. We hear him saying the right things, but don't know for sure what he will actually do if he wins. Obama on the other hand is a known commodity, we know exactly what he will do if he wins, he now has a track record, and he'll continue spending us deeper into debt on the road to collapse. He cares more about righting past wrongs and stealing wealth from those he views as evil than he does about the security of the country, and will run us right into the ground on his mission of fairness retribution.
At least Mitt represents a chance to save ourselves, Obama provides none. We have to give Mitt a chance to right the ship. Like it or not he's the only chance we have. Staying home, or voting for a 3rd party, is just abstaining and throwing in the towel on our future. Please don't do that. We really need you to bite your tongue this year, sacrifice your principles to a degree for the greater good at this crucial time in history, and help us vote Obama out.
^ Second that.
Same here!Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Giv
I may not be 56 (try half that) but as an avid student of history, especially American history, and I have asked around to my parents and others who have been around for more than 5 presidents- I have found this is the worst administration in the history of the nation. Don't we owe it to ourselves and future generations to fix the error?
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Originally Posted by Goodburbon
I think that is a good recap. I have nothing to say to you Goodburbon. I guess either you have the capacity to discern the truth or you don't.
We'll go off the cliff at 90 mph instead of 100 mph. We need real conservatives to retake the GOP or we are doomed. Romney is not a conservative, nor was Bush or McCain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
What I love is Dirt bag Clinton blaming Bush for the market crash. Clinton repealed the Glass–Steagall Act.
GOP=borrow and spend. DEMS=tax and spend, both=collapse.
As far as Socialism in USA, let's see Social Security, Medicare, Education, Farm Subsidies and many more. Obama is not a Socialist he is a Marxist. Romney is more Socialist than Capitalist.
What we (USA) have is a neat mixture of crony capitalism, socialism, communism and fascism right here in America. We need to get sound money and rid us of a privately owned central bank.
14 trillion is not an accurate sum of debt. We have interest on that to the Fed. Future obligations and the QE1 & 2 money not accounted for.
Buy storable food.
Bottom line at this point is either vote for Obama or against him. A vote for anyone else but the traditional GOP is a vote for Obama. It's a sad thing to say, but I will cast my vote to count for a difference. I will not waste it over a fantasy of perfect world as I wish it to be. This thread is about discrediting Obama w/ his own words.. Thanks for hijacking just about anything political topics, paul bots!
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You're welcomeQuote:
Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey
Hey now, don't come in here interjecting real evidence into an emotionally-charged circle jerk. The Republibots do not want to see proof that their savior is just as much of a socialist as the clown we all want to get rid of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rust_shackleford
Your posts are right on the money, Goodburbon, as usual. It is an uphill battle trying to get all the Chicken-Little clones to adopt a logical thought process and end the cycle of stupidity. I constantly hear from here and numerous other places common sentiment that agrees with the Libertarian platform: end foreign aid, reduce the size of the government, end the war on drugs, return sovereignty to the individual States. . . and yet they're all going to vote for a candidate who does not espouse any of these ideals and ignore the only candidate who does, because the former will somehow "be better for the country." Un-freaking-believable.
Incoming blubbering that we'll never convince them to vote third-party because we're so mean to them and hurt their feelings in 3. . . 2. . . 1. . .
Savior ? You know Ron is republican right? He lost, he is a sore loser. His followers are the same. If Ron wants his own party w/ his own agenda, go for it. He and his followers are republicans only in name. If Ron won the nomination, I can comfortably say I'd vote for him, but he lost and now we get to hear from you despite the fact that everyone else have moved onto the election in which Ron's name is not on the ballot.
Go campaign for Gary Johnson and stop fighting for Ron for crying out loud.
Funny, I don't see where I mentioned Ron Paul's name once in my rant above. I know he's not running, thanks. The only way I could stomach being associated with the Republican party is if it were in name only.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey
Never mentioned Ron Paul. I'm tired of the GOP and DEMS wiping their asses with the Bill of Rights. All I want is freedom. Sir William Wallace 2012. [Salute]Quote:
Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey
I don't know that the Libertarian party's solutions are the right ones, but at least they are different from the same song and dance we've gotten from R and D parties, who have taken turns getting us into this mess for decades. At least I'm willing to try something that might work instead of choosing to stick with what I know doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tor Larson
Sorry to group you into the Ron's crowd. Your past posts have always been defensive of Ron. [Tooth]Quote:
Originally Posted by Teufelhund
I.E. http://ar-15.co/forums/showpost.php?...48&postcount=3
I apologize if I am completely wrong about you.
EDIT.. same goes w/ Rust http://ar-15.co/forums/showpost.php?...89&postcount=2 :p
I think more conservatives can relate to you, however, the system is in place, it would take an economic melt down beyond anything we have seen in the past for the majority of voters to reset the DEM vs GOP standoff. Even Ron realized this and hence which party he is in. Throughout history, to go for a system to break down effectively a country must endure a period of anarchy..something I and many others won't support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teufelhund
Not one party can represent 100% of your fundamental beliefs. You can vote the party that represents your belief the most, and against the party that's against you the most. Furthermore, you want your vote to count - that's how I will vote this November.
Using the Logic that Throwing away a vote on someone with no chance of winning...
I am using this logic, paired with the current polls and backing O'blame-me.
Because, a Vote for someone with no chance of winning is throwing your vote away!