Any known issues or complaints. Side of barn accurate or tack driver?
Any known issues or complaints. Side of barn accurate or tack driver?
FWIW- I've read and heard that mounting optics is basically a waste. The barrel doesn't consistently lock into the same alignment with the receiver, so your receiver-mounted optics will not necessarily line up with your barrel. The factory sights work fine because the sight radius is still in line with the barrel, but I've heard several times that you have to re-zero your receiver-mounted optic every time you take it down and then reassemble.
Again, this is all secondhand info and I don't have any firsthand experience with the takedown model. YMMV.
I have one It's cool but was a definite impulse buy. Have hardly shot it
Gunner, do you have a receiver mounted optic on yours? Can you confirm or contest what I've heard about the zeroing problems?
I can't even imagine myself buying one. The price is too high, and the purpose.....WTF IS the purpose, exactly?
The purpose is I do not have a 10/22 and the take down one intrigues me its either that or an integral suppressed one.Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
Nothing wrong with a 10/22 (the one I had didn't impress me, but that's another story. Good guns overall.), but the usefulness of the takedown feature, I just don't get it unless you need to put it in a suitcase. Can't see that much extra money for a feature that would rarely get used, if ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by USMC88-93
Now, an integral suppressed one.....THAT would be sweet! I could warm up to one of those quite well.
Nope have not shot it enough
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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
I can confirm it. I had one, mounted a scope and got it all dialed in. Broke it down, put it back together and it shot 6" high and right. Even sent the scope back to leupold to be checked.
Everytime. So I dumped.
Neat idea, but wasn't what I was looking for.
I've often wondered about pellet rifles that cock by breaking the barrel, yet have the scope mounted on the receiver. Such as most Gamos. Do those also have zeroing issues? Sure seems to me like they'd be prone to it, since you're moving the barrel between every shot.
I've had a couple cheaper gamos, you're right, waste of time to scope them. Also louder than 22 shorts for pest control. Shoot great with irons.Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
Makes cheap backyard practice if your locale approves. I used to practice every day after work, just ten pellets or so. Really helped me with standing positions.
I like mine well enough and I was never a 10/22 fan. The trigger was so-so but I had Brimstone work on it. Much better now, 2 1/4 lbs, clean break. I have a stovepipe every other magazine or so, which I'm hoping will be fixable with a $12 Volquartsen extractor. Cheap enough, but kind of a pain. Also, the BX-25 magazines seem somewhat hit-or-miss; one of mine works, one needs to be returned to Ruger because of bolt clearance issues.
The takedown capability appeal for me is in discreet carry while backpacking or in the lockable saddlebags on my motorcycle. Before buying I had been looking for a Marlin Papoose but I think the Ruger beats it in most every way.
I haven't mounted a scope and am not sure if I will. For now I have a Skinner Lo-pro peep sight on it (needed to shave down the stem, or get a taller front sight) which I may replace with something off this page. (One site mounts on the barrel, and they're coming out with an Express sight for the receiver.)
http://www.skinnersights.com/ruger_firearms_22.html
The odd thing is, every magazine and online review I've read lauds the rifle for its ability to return to zero after breakdown. Hmmm...
There is a lot more Takedown info over on rimfirecentral.com , btw.
I am wondering if all the complainants have followed the instructions on mounting the barrel for the first time, or just slapped the barrel on and went shooting expecting the barrel to seat the same every time ?
I just gave my son one for his 14th birthday a couple days ago.
Lets just say he can hit spent 12 ga shells at 50 yards open sights (out of the box 250 rounds in our outing). Such a rewarding buy. I love passing down the 10/22 model of rifles! This is all after shooting several rounds then showing him how to take it down, shooting, etc.
I am not a fan of the front sight. It is brass colored and round. I think I will replace it with a straight up blade to show him some better open sight precision shooting.
The barrel mates to a "barrel nut" looking thing that you can adjust the fit to make it tighter/looser.
The volquartsen exact edge extractor is a great upgrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by skortch
I enjoy mine a lot! Just open sights, and no extra $ spent n Volq goodies, but can pop a 4" plate over and over at 50 yds before it stops swinging from the last shot... No mag issues, 10 or 25 rounders. I'm surprised people are having zeroing issues, I read a lot of good things about optics on the takedown. Maybe the lockup isn't tight enough? I'd buy it again today, for sure.
I have one and have a 1-4 scope on it. I've had no issues with zero holding so far.
I've also had very consistant locking up when assembling so i dont see the issues ive' also heard reported on holding zero. there are two set screws that hold the locking mechanism, i can only surmise that those are not holding for some folks?
Some might have issues but I had a Webley Vulcan (British pellet gun) and there was no shift in zero, just an incredibly accurate rifle with a horrible trigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
I just went down last week to start the ~8 day wait on one. I did a lot of research leading up to it and finally decided that the issues that were being reported are either early production issues or easily mitigated. I plan on getting the trigger cleaned up a bit and will likely add some fiber optic sights as well. I will likely add a scope just to validate the re-zeroing issue for myself but don't intend to keep it on.
From what I've read, several people have gotten optics to return to zero by tightening up the lockup adjustment beyond Ruger's recommendations. This could be luck of the draw or a valid option. We'll see. I don't expect to shoot it until the second week of Feb.
I am about to buy one. Have some BX-25 mags and will be wringing it all out when I get it. I see it as a total and potentially perfect "bug-out" .22. I do not plan on mounting optics on mine, as I see it as a 25-yard game-getter- KISS.
A quick follow-up to my above post. Verdict: very positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by anomad
It took maybe 10 minutes to install the Volquartsen extractor. I only ran a couple magazines through but experienced no stovepipes, very nice results so far. (This on top of the fact that I hadn't cleaned the 10/22 for a while, so even dirty it cycled just fine. The stovepipes occurred every previous range trip, clean rifle or not.)
Big improvement for me, just too bad it seems to be such a necessary upgrade.
It looks like all of the internals on the standard 10/22 vs the takedown are the same. Is this the same for the extractor? That is, did you order the std volquartsen extractor for the takedown?Quote:
Originally Posted by skortch
I didn't see any separate part numbers or anything, but since it didn't specifically state that it was compatible with the takedown, I wanted to confirm.
Additionally, what do you think about the mag release on it? My current 10/22s are all the older models with the flush mag release. I had planned on ordering one of the extended releases (like the tactical innovations style that extends under the trigger guard) for 1-2 of them and had considered one for the takedown as well. Since I've never had the opportunity to play with the newer style release though, I was going to wait until I had it in hand.
Since I'm now on day 11 of the waiting game, I'm starting to get impatient. So, mag release on the takedown: decent or just barely less clumsy than the original flush style?
Well, just to follow up on this, it looks like all of the internals are the same between standard and takedown models. I ordered exact edge extractors and upgraded bolt buffers, mainly just to improve reliability. As far as the mag release, the new version is night and day better than the older, flush style. I think I'm going to stick with the factory setup on it. Once I get the opportunity to play with a tactical innovations type release, I may upgrade the older ones.
I won't get a chance to shoot the TD until the 2nd week of Feb, but after playing with it for awhile, I like it. I took the adjustment screw down to 3 clicks instead of the recommended 2 and it locks up very tight now. I actually had a bit of a scare when I did it. I tightened it down and then put it together. Then I couldn't get it apart! It would start to twist apart but then just stop. [panic]
I was dreading the call to Ruger to figure out how I screwed it up, but then realized I'd forgotten to lock the bolt back. [fail]
Sorry, I was out of town. I'm pretty sure the extractors are the same, as you found out. I'm not a big fan of the 10/22 mag release but I'm not up for purchasing a replacement as of now. Same goes for the bolt locking mechanism.Quote:
Originally Posted by baglock1
And, yeah, gotta always remember to lock the bolt back - took me a while to get into the habit. I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere in the great internet wasteland that not doing so can cause damage (extractor?).
Just got mine, put about 100 informal offhand rounds thru it at FL yesterday. Mostly misc ammo, a few stove pipes. Last mag was filled with Stingers, it really seemed to like those! I've ordered a Volq extractor, bolt handle and buffer pin. I thank Sideshow Bob for mentioning the specific instructions for first assembly. I never even would have looked. I'm considering a complete Volq trigger group, from Brownells. Approx $200- not sure it's worth it, really want to replace the cheesy factory trigger group with a quality unit, for the ultimate TD, ironsight bug-out .22.
Here is what I did to mine for the trigger:
http://www.brimstonegunsmithing.com/...r-work-teir-2/
If you look on rimfirecentral, they have a number of recommended "fixes" for improving the 10/22 action. In the $100 range, give or take, there are a number of gunsmiths like brimstone and swampfox, along with the cheaper drop-in trigger group from Kidd. The Volquartsen option seems down the list a ways, recommendation-wise. While the composite trigger group may feel kinda cheesy, some of the gunsmiths prefer it over the metal group due to consistent manufacturing - fewer minor variations, I guess.
Thanks!! That's exactly the type of feedback I was looking for!
I like mine, and it seems to hold a zero OK with the scope mounted to the receiver and the barrel fits snugly. As far as the price, it's worth a whole lot more now than what I paid for it when they first came out. I've had some ridiculous offers while at the range.
Reaver
I have a Ruger 10/22 take down I purchased last summer-Fall for $299.99.
I like how small it is when taken down.. Very easy to Transport.
I installed a Scope on it & have no issues whats so ever.
The scope mounts on the weaver style rail on the receiver. Take it apart or leave it. Since the scope is mounted on the receiver the scope should always be on target. Unless you use a less expensive Scope.
I only use Burris or Nikon. I have a Nikon on mine.
I have one, I made to changes to it, I installed a set of Tech sights "look like M1A sights" the Rear aperture is mounted to the rear scope mount holes. This works great make for a longer sight radius and swapping the barrel back and forth does not appear to effect zero I have never re zeroed the sights and I can easily hit a golf ball at 75 yards with the improved peep sight. Other modification I made was to drill out the bolt hold open so it acts like it should have come from the factory. I really like this rifle I use it mostly as a back pack rifle and just a plinker. Goes nice in the truck too as the case in not a conspicuous rifle case sitting on the back seat but just looks like a small backpack at first glance.