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12-03-2007, 19:34
Wallary

11 months to go

Subject: The Clintons Bill & Hillary, 1970

BILL CLINTON's MILITARY CAREER (Grit your teeth before you read this!) Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Selective Service Number is 326 46 228. Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968. Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969. Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of COL. E. Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment. Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC , September 1969. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction. Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE! Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40. Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice. Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from President Carter. Bill Clinton becomes the FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United States . All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton . After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia , which killed five U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia , which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible be hunted down and punished. Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New Yo rk and Washington , DC . who are now dead would be alive today. THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forthcoming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events while under oath. We don't want this woman to become our next President, Do we? 11 Months and counting.
12-03-2007, 20:19
tsr

I'd love to see some hard evidence of that. Oh wait... if I did, I'd probably be found... or rather not found at the bottom of a lake.
12-03-2007, 23:17
Gman

...or laying in a park with an open mind.

The story's bunk though.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/felon.asp
12-04-2007, 00:12
tsr

Well, snopes doesn't really debunk anything, they just speculate that there's absence of evidence, nothing more. Besides, it isn't new, it's been circulating the vast of the Internet for years, and b.c. being b.c. I am sure could have gotten to any relevant documentation long ago.
12-04-2007, 01:05
Gman

It depends on what the definition of "is" is.[LOL]
12-04-2007, 18:36
Wallary

I knew that, [Dunno]I was just throwing a little more gas on the fire![Flame] lol! I'd love to see some more dirty laundry on these two but, I just can't get a rise out of anyone here. Tell ya the truth that Biouch freaks me out. What if? [Puke]Can you handle it having her as the President of the United States?[NoClue]
12-04-2007, 19:27
tsr

Won't happen. C'mon, realistically, which states is she going to get? NY and CT? I really doubt she has a chance even in CA, if she were to run in presidential elections I bet we'd see the highest numbers of people voting.
12-04-2007, 19:31
<MADDOG>

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsr

Won't happen. C'mon, realistically, which states is she going to get? NY and CT? I really doubt she has a chance even in CA, if she were to run in presidential elections I bet we'd see the highest numbers of people voting.

We can only hope...
12-04-2007, 19:42
tsr

Not to worry, we'll be screwed regardless of who the next president will be. Or rather, we're screwed. It's [Beer] time!
12-04-2007, 21:15
tsr

foxtrot, I think you're giving that particular crowd way too much credit :)
12-05-2007, 12:25
Asha'man

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsr

Not to worry, we'll be screwed regardless of who the next president will be. Or rather, we're screwed. It's [Beer] time!

Unless it's Ron Paul.
12-05-2007, 16:29
tsr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asha'man

Unless it's Ron Paul.

Regardless. I don't think the society has reached the level when the mentality can actually change. The only way things can get better for the country if we adopted some sort of system proposed in "Starship Troopers" -- citizenship through service.
12-06-2007, 00:42
Gman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asha'man

Unless it's Ron Paul.

The guy's a loon. He doesn't have a prayer.

Hillary has astronomical disapproval numbers. I remember reading a poll were over half the respondants said they would never vote for her. She's a radical and doesn't have the polish to get away with the stuff her husband could.
12-06-2007, 02:27
tsr

Gman, why do you thing R.P. is a loon?
12-07-2007, 01:13
Asha'man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman

The guy's a loon.

Because he believes in the Constitution? Yeah, that's pretty out there.....

'Splain, Lucy.
12-07-2007, 02:18
Gman

His ideas on foreign policy are downright irresponsible. He wants to just turtle and hope that nobody cracks the shell.
12-07-2007, 03:21
Marlin

Have to agree with Greg, If it came down to RP, Billery or, eating ground glass. I'd have to go with the ground glass, it would be far less painfull.

ETA: If RP had a more realistic view of the world, I would have no problem with Him.
12-07-2007, 05:54
Great-Kazoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman

The guy's a loon. He doesn't have a prayer.

Hillary has astronomical disapproval numbers. I remember reading a poll were over half the respondants said they would never vote for her. She's a radical and doesn't have the polish to get away with the stuff her husband could.

approval #'s or not. midway between now and then. watch her and obama kiss and make up. they will unite under the banner of putting their differences aside for the good of the country.

OR
worse case secnario is her and wesley clark as the VP.
12-07-2007, 11:20
Asha'man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman

His ideas on foreign policy are downright irresponsible. He wants to just turtle and hope that nobody cracks the shell.

Um, nope. From wikipedia:

Quote:

Paul's foreign policy of nonintervention[11] made him the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have voted against the Iraq War Resolution in 2002.[12][13] He advocates withdrawal from the UN and NATO for reasons of maintaining strong national sovereignty.[11][14] He supports free trade, rejecting membership in NAFTA and the World Trade Organization as "managed trade".

Quote:

Paul calls for a foreign policy of nonintervention.[42] This policy avoids entangling alliances with other nations, in the tradition of Washington, Jefferson, and Madison,[43] in order to avoid being drawn into wars not related to defense. He believes that war must be fought only to protect citizens, it must be declared by the U.S. Congress, and it must be concluded when the victory is complete as planned: "The American public deserves clear goals and a definite exit strategy in Iraq."[44] Paul advocates bringing troops home from U.S. military bases in Korea, Japan, and Europe among others.[45] He denies being an isolationist: he advocates "conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic...ns_of_Ron_Paul
12-07-2007, 17:36
Gman

You just reinforced my argument.

Look, Ron Paul's ideology would work fine if the Federal government hadn't been buggered up over the past 100 years. He also isn't willing to incrementally make things better. It's an all or nothing strategy and it doesn't work. He doesn't seem to give a rat's ass that the enemy of "good" is "better". He often votes with the Dems to make his point, and that doesn't help me today.

This isn't a green field. You can't pretend that you aren't in the current situation that you're in, even if you didn't cause it. You have to push for progress.

http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/10...economic_i.php

For him to say that we asked for 9-11 by "our interventionist policy"...that makes him a loon. He has to ignore thousands of years of Islamic history to make that conclusion. You also can't rationally compare attacks by terrorists to the international diplomacy involved in the Cuban missile crisis.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/co...1/cr092501.htm
12-09-2007, 21:58
cleaner72

Does nobody here like Fred Thompson at all? For me I am pretty much a 1 issue voter and that is the 2nd amendment.....He "SEEMS" to be the best fit for me as far as that is concerned. Just curious about what you guys think about him.....
12-10-2007, 03:00
Gman

I think Thompson is the most solid conservative of the bunch. We even sent him a small donation when he decided to jump into the race. I'm disappointed that he hasn't made a stronger showing. He gives me the impression that he's not in it to win it.