Guess who the bad guy is? KHAAAAANNNN!
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/p...kintodarkness/
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Guess who the bad guy is? KHAAAAANNNN!
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/p...kintodarkness/
OK, I'm a fairly avid Star Trek fan. I watched the trailer and I'm lost. Who's back for vengeance?
Awesome. That was my first thought but how many Wrath of Khan movies can you make :)
I must be really confused on the overall story and/or time line between all the different versions... this doesn't make sense.
Throw out everything you know. They're starting the time line over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BrHlQUXFzfw
15 more seconds on the Japanese (same audio with Japanese subtitles) trailer!
My take: Ignore the Wrath of Khan, and watch the original series's "Space Seed". Basically, Kirk find Khan and his group in crio on a derelict ship ("botany Bay"), Khan try to take over, Kirk ban him to exile on a planet.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBear
I think where the story changes on this movie, is that Khan somehow was able to make his way to Earth.
They called it a reboot. I prefer to think of it as an alternate universe as the timelines for the "first" movie didn't really fit in with the idea of Spock Prime moving back into his own timeline. Characters like Chekov were different ages from what they should have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBear
I'm glad they're bringing the original characters and concept back to life as I thought Rick Berman had just about killed Roddenberry's legacy but I thought the script for the reboot movie was really stupid.
Khan went yuppie on us. Way to clean cut looking. Ricardo Montalban was awesome in that role.
I was just thinking that- Montalban was awesome with that mullet! But I'm excited to see this, I loved the first JJ Abrams rendition, but this new villain I don't think will be as BAMF as Eric Bana was.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldrwl
Oh yeah, 70's like a MFer!
http://mediageeknetwork.com/wp-conte...aveo1_1280.jpg
yeah but remember that Khan is supposed to be a bio engineered super human....Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldrwl
I hate to admit to my inner-geekness, but one of the sites is alluding to the villain not being Khan, but a former classmate of Kirk's that gained mental powers, was abandoned on a planet and now wants revenge. It was one of the original show's episodes.
In the end, who knows. I will go see it though!
When I heard the voice I initially thought that Jean Luc Picard was seriously pissed off! I was thinking he had turned rogue or something. I, evidently, was wrong.
Gary Mitchell?Quote:
Originally Posted by OneGuy67
This is from the Prairie Nerds website:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChadAmberg
On Monday, Paramount released the official poster of the new Star Trek movie, and the geekosphere has exploded. This morning, the teaser trailer was released.
I'm going to break down a few elements that might provide clues as to the plot and potential identity of the villain, described in the synopsis as "an unstoppable force of terror."
Here is the poster:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/articleima...odarkness.jpeg
I can assume that the man standing in the center is Benedict Cumberbatch's villainous character. Also, apparently broken concrete is now a popular style of movie poster now. (I assume My Little Pony will follow suit shortly.)
I would lose my nerd cred if I didn't blow the image up and scour for clues. The cityscape in the background is London. 23rd Century London. The Millenium Gate, St. Paul's Cathedral and the Gherkin building are all visible. I looked for London bridge, but assumed that it just fell down sometime before the 23rd century.
The question this poster begs is why in the world 23rd century London is important at all to the story. London is rarely mentioned in any previous Trek series or movie, save for passing historical references.
I didn't see any obvious clues at first glace, but what struck me about this image was how it tied to the synopsis given by Paramount. A particularly tantalizing tidbit is this: "an unstoppable force of terror from within their own organization has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for..."
The official trailer, released this morning at 3am, shows us so much more.
Here's what I spotted:
I saw multiple Klingons fighting Cumberbatch's character. I even went frame-by-frame and saw an energy blast stopped by an invisible shield around Cumberbatch. Alice Eve's character is prominently displayed in the trailer, so I assume that she must be Dr. Elizabeth Dehner, who tries to help Mitchell (I'm calling it. The villain is Gary Mitchell.) A starship is seen crashing into a river or San Fansisco Bay (not the Enterprise because the pylons are arced out and the nacelle shape is different), and later into a city. There is also another scene with the Enterprise rising from a large body of water.
My conclusions:
Putting two and two together, we can assume that the force is from Starfleet (as Cumberbatch is seen in Starfleet uniforms), he has immense power of some sort, and literally destroys the fleet in some fashion. If we're assuming this character is new, the identity could be anyone's guess. However, if they're using previously established characters, the identity must be Gary Mitchell. Mitchell is Kirk's old friend whose ESP and Telekinetic abilities were activated while the Enterprise crossed the energy barrier at the edge of the galaxy.
It hasn't been officially confirmed that Mitchell is the villain, but if he is, we're in for a wild ride.
Star Trek Into Darkness stars Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Benedict Cumberbatch, Karl Urban, Zoe Saldana, Bruce Greenwood, John Cho, Simon Pegg, Peter Weller, Anton Yelchin and Alice Eve. The movie comes to theaters on May 17th, 2013.
This is from ScreenRat.com:
Even with less than 60 seconds of actual footage, there is a lot to take in and dissect, beyond the special effects heavy visuals. So, let’s analyze what scenes and plot points were showcased in our first look at Star Trek 2.
Breaking down the trailer into the sequences, we can pull out the specific moments. Some are obvious, while others we’ll have to wait and see what they are and how they factor into the story.
- Kirk giving a speech at a funeral – with a flyover aerial salute – after what we assume is an attack that resulted in his mother’s death since the plot synopsis specially states the crew of the Enterprise is his only family after the Starfleet was “detonated” and the Earth put into a “state of crisis.”
- We see a red temple with McCoy and Kirk robed and running away from something, jumping off a cliff into the water. What is this place and why are they there?
- First look at Alice Eve‘s new character in two separate uniforms, and a scene with her having an eye-to-eye moment with Kirk.
- Cumberbatch makes a grand entrance with a flying leap, shooting an opponent while in the air and grabbing an overly large weapon to take out what looks to be a Gorn. Is this paying homage to the episode “Arena” from season one of the original Star Trek where Kirk fistfights a Gorn? Or is it a Klingon as some suggest, as the outfit resembles that of the Star Trek 1deleted scene featuring Klingons?
- Spock descends into a volcano with equipment. This is the same footage from the three-frame clip Abrams showed while on Conan and from previous set photos of Zachary Quinto suited up in front of a green screen. Where is this and why is Spock down there? Are they trying to quell a natural disaster? Are they looking for someone?
- An unknown Starfleet vessel with familiar warp engines rises from the water, different hull than the Enterprise. The designation code following “NCC” is not visible.
- Spock chases Cumberbatch on Earth, through the streets and into a building. When does this take place relative to the attack on Earth?
- Kirk enters a bridge of a ship (not the Enterprise) to see Cumberbatch in the Captain’s chair in Starfleet apparel, reminiscent of the scene from Abrams’ first Star Trek with Kirk sporting a black shirt sitting in the chair.
- In the Japanese version of the teaser, there’s a few seconds of extra footage which strongly hint at the major sacrifice teased in the official synopsis. It looks like Kirk and Spock’s hands on opposite sides of protective glass, potentially replicating the of the emotional conclusion to Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan where Spock dies to save the Enterprise. Except this time, the roles could be reversed if the synopsis is of any indication. Quite the tease.
There’s no dialogue from any of the familiar cast members and the entire one-minute trailer is narrated by Benedict Cumberbatch’s character who swears vengeance. Who wronged him? Fans will no doubt draw comparisons to the infamous Khan Noonien Singh in terms of the confident, tyrannical voice vowing to serve vengeance. Not to mention the superhuman strength and intelligence. This may add more fuel to those previous rumors.
http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-conten...ch-570x285.jpg
The obvious difference is that whoever or whatever wronged Benedict Cumberbatch’s character wasn’t James T. Kirk as this will mark their first encounter. Clearly though, there’s an origin story that plays into the plot of how the character acquired superhuman strength and what his motivations are.
The more common theory, and strongly hinted at in the official plot synopsis, is that Cumberbatch is playing a variation of Starfleet officer Gary Mitchell (pictured above) who in the original canon was best pals with Kirk throughout Starfleet Academy and later served under him on the Enterprise. Mitchell, along with psychiatrist Elizabeth Dehner, were both significantly altered in a mission that saw the Enterprise breaching the galactic barrier. Mitchell became too dangerous after being granted psychic powers and Kirk was forced to kill him with the help of Dehner (who also gained ESP abilities). She also happens to look very similar to Alice Eve (see comparison image below).
http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-conten...er-570x285.jpg
Coincidence?
The fact that we don’t know who Cumberbatch is playing and that there may be much more at work behind what we’re being shown only builds on the anticipation and excitement. For all we know, he may not be a villain at all, in the traditional sense.
The full two-minute trailer releases next week along with a full nine-minute sequence shot in IMAX for IMAX attendees of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey.
Tell us your thoughts and theories on the trailer, the story, the scenes depicted and of course, the two new characters mentioned above.
J.J. Abrams returns to direct Star Trek Into Darkness off a screenplay by Alex Kurtzman, Damon Lindelof and Roberto Orci. It stars Chris Pine, Benedict Cumberbatch, Zachary Quinto, Zoe Saldana, Karl Urban, John Cho, Anton Yelchin and Simon Pegg.
Star Trek Into Darkness opens in theaters (regular and IMAX 3D) on May 17th, 2013.
Yeah...I'm a closet geek...
The only Star Trek movie I've ever seen that didn't have Jean Luc Picard, and the most recent reboot (which I thought was awesome), was Star Trek II. Spoiler alert: Spock dies.
If I've been told correctly, all the even numbered Star Trek movies are considered to be the better movies?
Now Gary Mitchell makes more sense. But dam, I like the Khan character far more than a magical character. Nuts!
I thought it was Kahn as well but heard it was Gary Mitchell as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChadAmberg
IMDB doesn't give much other than "Khan (Rumored)." Something tells me they're going to keep tight lipped on who the villain actually is.
Gary Mitchell makes more sense to me. After reading the link I'm 99% sure Khan is not it.
I still think it's Khan. This one Teaser, was released a while back, but it is too good to be a fan made trailer...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-13Ic19WUs
You all confused me with the talk about Khan earlier but I remember discussion a year or so ago that said this movie was going to revamp "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (the Gary Mitchell episode). I think the Khan thing was just some fan wishing since Star Trek II is generally held to be the best of the Trek movies and this is Trek 2 of the reboot. I'm still not thrilled with J.J. Abrams' take on Trek but it's better than the garbage Rick Berman and Brannon Braga were putting out.