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They would have carried me out in a body bag. Another reason to start saving up money so you can leave before the above happens to you, since the same will happen in rest of the country shortly.
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They would have carried me out in a body bag. Another reason to start saving up money so you can leave before the above happens to you, since the same will happen in rest of the country shortly.
Quite frankly, nothing of value has existed in New Orleans for a long time...I do wish the city had just been completely wiped off the map...
Nobody is stopping you. Nogales is a stones throw from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delphi
Love it or leave it.
Where to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delphi
I must be reading your post wrong Delphi, you're not saying the USA is a 'wretched country' are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delphi
there's a saying..." If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem"
If you really feel that way,and you promise to not come back, I'll start the pot with $20.
It's $201.00 to Calgary from here on Greyhound. anyone else care to help our Country?
put me down for $20
Come on guys he just wants to buy a $600 M16 and have freedom. He wants to go to one of those great countries in South africa where you can purchase belt fed weapons on every street corner for pennys on the dollar.
Hell I will throw $100 in the pot have fun Delphi. Be sure to let us all know how your new found freedom go's.
update... on the 24th of December, from Tuscon to Nogales is only $186.00
it's even cheaper to clean up around here!
I'm in for at least $20 if we can ensure that his account gets wiped out too
put me down for 20.
Ahhhhh decided this post isnt worth it........
Come on guys we're only about $40 short of a short bus ticket for Delphi!
by coincidence I was talking to a friend who works for greyhound while reading this, and they are trying to fill the 4:15 bus to nogales today, out of phoenix, if we can get him there, the fare is $28.00[Coffee]
Shoot that is a good price. At that price if everyone still pitches in $20 we could do a little round up program...
Lol you guys.
This country at one point and time was a great thing, and it's turning into a wretched thing, just like the rest of most of the world. You guys really think that things are going to start improving again with a 2 party system that actually resembles more of a 1 party system than anything else? This country was great and its turning into crap. We are straying away from what this country was founded upon. And I fear it's already to late to change that course. I stand corrected that the ENTIRE USA is not wretched yet... Certain parts are and the rest will follow sooner rather than later, so really whats the difference?
It'll take more than a few hundred dollars and a bus ticket... more like my own private island in the middle of nowhere. I'm already saving for it so no need for handouts.
The above is what I ment so I'll edit the post accordingly. It seems that you guys care less about the fact that the goverment can throw you around like a rag doll for no reason than my opinion of where this country is heading.
make no mistake.. it wasn't any "handout" it was an escort out of the country.
Fight for your country, don't be a coward and run away like you're eluding to!
Our country wasn't founded by cowards, it was founded by men who cared and took a stand for what they believed in. They made sure there were provisions to protect the people of this country by drawing up a Constitution and Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights, is a basicly a set of rules for the government to abide by, it doesn't give us any rights (those were given by God). We need to fight our oppressors, not run from them.
(did you do your mandatory CO-AR15 homework?)
If you think that there is nothing left to fight for, please excuse yourself from this site!
and if you want out of the country so bad, we'll get you out of here ASAP on the first bus to Mexico or Canada where you can live your little crack pipe dream (if you think life is better anywhere else).
So how do you suggest we "fight" for our country?
We can't truly "fight" seeing as we'd be outgunned and outnumbered. Plus that’s the kind of stuff that'll land you in jail for treason.
Yes I did the homework, and as far as I can see the government is not abiding by the bill of rights. How can you fight that through politics?
Giving your money away to organizations? If that’s what it's all come to, than not much is left.
And where else in the world is there to go other than some random island in the middle of no where, which would take considerable cash to make livable.
Really I only see a few options
#1 save up money and leave
#2 stay and hope things dont degrade before you die
#3 You like the way things are going, so you stay
I mean what can average joe do to keep his country from being hijacked by power hungry politicians? If you have any better options than the above let me know.
There are far more armed people in this country than there are in the military. We wouldn't be outgunned. Besides, it's a volunteer Army and they won't fight their own people. The Founding Fathers figured we would have revolutions fairly often. There's one brewing as more people expect handouts from the government with fewer people working and having the fruits of their labor being taken from them. Change is coming, you just have to know when is the right time. Until then, keep your powder dry.
[Peep]
hehe I guess...
Just have to wait and see what happens and hope they dont take our guns away.
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Originally Posted by Gman
99% of so called armed people will give up their firearms without a fight as soon as there's a call to do so. Look at CA, for instance. While people are fed and there is enough entertainment -- that's all the freedom anybody needs, otherwise there'd be a revolt a long time ago (not necessary a violent one).
Exactly, sit and wait for someone to do something for you... or bitch and moan about how much the country sucks and all there's to do is to leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delphi
Well i'm bieng honest what else can you do?
I mean if somone were rise up the 5 or so people with balls to do so would be swatted down like flies and be made example of. And that would just give the government more reason to take guns away from people, making it worse for everyone. It would essentially be a pointless death. You'd literally needed hundreds of thousands of people to rise up, but sadly gun owners tend to be fat and happy and have money. They are not willing to risk it all for their god given rights.
Anyways all I know is if they invade my property I wont go down without a fight before they get me.
If somone with money and power starts somthing count me in otherwise what can I making 800$ a week do? You need to be a millionear now adays to change things.
I mean just look at this thread for example, people are p'd off at me when I say this is a sinking boat, while they should have watched that video and been pissed at our government. Thats why our country is dying. People are too politically correct, and to proud to admit the boat is full of massive leaks... we're "unsinkable". Also the fact that people will not fight as long as they are fat and happy.
people aren't pissed off at stating the fact the country is in trouble. people are pissed off because the only constructive thing you've said was that you're going to evacuate yourself. see the difference?
Well I guess I can see that people would be angry about that, generally I would be too a while back...
I used to be politically active but thats all BS, it doesnt really matter.
I mean seriously what other option do I have? Vote for one of the two bad guys like every other good peon?
I think I've just finally come to the realization that there isnt anything I personally can't do about it allone. And what other option is there? Other than waiting for somone with money to step up to the plate? What if that person never steps up?
Without getting to silly, but think of what did people do back in 1760-70's. If you want to speed up the process a bit (and see if there's anything worth staying here for) -- vote for hillary.
Evacuation as means of protest is about just as good as burying your head in sand.
http://liney.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/potatoes.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by HunterCO
Delphi, name the country that's better. France? England? Canada? Australia? Russia? Germany? South Africa? Mexico?
WHine all you want. There's still no where better.
Vote for hillary, I like that idea :p
And robster there is no better country and thats why I'm whining we cant just let this one turn into one of the rest.
But I think I get your guys point, be patient and it will "fix it's self".
Lets just hope there are still some americans with a backbone left at that time, cause at college it's depressing, not one of these kids in any of my classes would ever fight for there country. No matter how bad it gets.
Well I've said this to you specifically before.. what have YOU done for your country? You pass youthful judgment without the benefit of any real experience or wisdom.
You expect that the country will simply conform to your perception of what it is supposed to be, yet you have done nothing... NO THING to serve or help your country save go after some kids with paint balls or run your mouth about things you truly have yet to grasp or comprehend.
How about this, Lead, Follow or get out of the way! Go join the military, LE or government in some other form. Work from the inside maybe? Run for city council, hell run for the school board. Rather than sit there like a helpless child maybe you could actually do something besides rant on the errornet.
Who do you think would actually stop us? Most of the people who are against people like us dont like guns and wouldnt know how to use em anyways....How many of our military do you think would back up a corrupt government that is trying to oppress its own people? Most of them would leave to join our cause with thier weapons and supplies no doubt. I think alot of law enforcement would as well...not all but some are good people who care about our country and BELEIVE in their oath to defend against enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC, ie our government if it came to that. The 2nd amendment was put in place primarily for that reason, to defend against a tyranical government...like the others said if you want to be a coward, get out now....Personally i'll die before my guns are taken from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delphi
Well my goal is to go work for the government Badshot, but having a college degree is a requirement. Currently getting it in Political Science and than I’m going for an masters in International Affairs. On the note of what I'm doing now? I'm working for the local PD 60 hours a week while going to school. Sadly most of my class mates are all working to become lairs(lawyers) in a corrupt system.
So I'm doing my part to "fight" for this country at least I'm trying. But I'll have to climb a long and hard ladder before I can do anything major about the way this country is running.
And as to what would stop us... well I really cant predict the way things would go, if the military and PD's were on our side I doubt that would be a problem. But if we were there standing with semi auto's and the government is in abrams/bradleys I don’t think there would be much we could do about it.
I mean the military guy may believe in the cause of keeping the government straight but what would happen to him if they good guys lost? He'd be court marshaled and killed for treason. The fear may just keep many soldiers on the wrong side of things if it came down to that.
At the end of the day I would never take a law-abiding citizen’s weapons away, and I would stand in the way of my colleagues that would, but at this point that’s all I could ever do.
Well than what can I do NOW thats non-violent and will help the situation keep from degrading? I can understand you not wanting to post all the info in the open for all to see. If you want let me know privatly, because I just hate sitting here doing nothing watching things degrade.