According to Fox, a shit bag just shot up a mall in Portland, OR. He was supposed to be using an AR, Body armor and Camo. No link yet.
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According to Fox, a shit bag just shot up a mall in Portland, OR. He was supposed to be using an AR, Body armor and Camo. No link yet.
Dammit "reasonable" gun control legislation in 3....2....
What happened to human decency?
The news is claiming over 60 rounds fired, multiple people down, suspect has been "neutralized".
Tis the season for great big Assholes. Falalala- lalalalaa. [Rant2]
Every shooting is with an "AR". lol.Body armor LBE. Time to go dig some holes[shithitsfan][dig]
http://www.9news.com/news/article/30...s%7Cbc%7Clarge
Damnit! You guys beat me by 10 minutes! Shooter is no longer a threat because his gun jammed or something but they are still live in a standoff in the mall. Give this douche a Xmas present loaded with 9mm up his ass!
I've probobly had 1 jam in 12 years of firing ar type of weapons. I just don't get it
Why anyone would want to shoot up the Clackamas Clown center is beyond me. And yes, that is what it has been called for years. [Flower]
Tragic.Quote:
Originally Posted by TS12000
All these shootings should be the poster child for pushing more CCW holders, not more gun control legislation.
yup.....Quote:
Originally Posted by TS12000
so true,
isn't any gun that is being fired in your direction an "assault weapon" if you are shooting at me I am being assaulted.
Not just more CCW holders but more places to legally carry. I'll bet that mall is a "Gun Free" zone just like the Aurora theater was. It being a "Gun Free" is one of the reasons the shooters picked it as their killing field.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal
Where did you hear it was an AR ?
Every report I've read ( with the exception of CNN.. to whom every gun is an assault rifle ... )
The rest of all said just rifle .
Fox has been calling it an AR15 since around 4 when I first saw the report.Quote:
Originally Posted by clublights
What the hell is a magazine clip? I have heard that twice now with this incident.
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Originally Posted by w748
The local stations in OR are just saying rifle still
I saw Fox news call it an AR15 and said gunman dropped a fully loaded 30 round magazine.
Wolf or Tulammo. Steel cased... Ya know...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fmedges
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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0
Word! Good thing these geniuses buy the cheapest shit they can get thier hands on
more catalyst for the dummycraps....er democrats
Bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by TS12000
Anybody who still feels that we won't see any changes to firearms regulation is delusional.
No kidding.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwalker460
Funny, I've not seen anyone comment anywhere on the "white mask" the shooter was wearing. I'm wondering what the chances are that it ends up being one of those Anonymous anarchist Guy Fawkes masks.
http://catholicbandita.com/wp-conten.../anonymous.jpg
We're already hearing "body armor". Considering people (and Bob Costas) still think that the James Holmes wore body armor, I wonder when the truth will come out on that point.
One of the articles I read called this "the latest in a string of shooting rampages throughout the country, the latest being (Aurora)..." I was thinking - other than Aurora, which rampages are they thinking of? Are they counting the NYC thing, which was basically your standard murder of which there are hundreds in NYC every year until the cops opened fire on a busy street and hit 10 people? I'm trying to figure out the rest of this "string of shooting rampages".
Let's remember what happened, and think about how thankful we should all be for the people we have in our lives that we love and care for. Prayers out to those those that were injured or killed and their friends and families. This is going to make Christmas, Hannukah, or whatever holiday people are celebrating this time of year, for many years to come.
Media has a field day with endless speculation and calls for useless legislation to save the children.
The shooter gets their warped sense of fame and attention.
Politicians get to strut around looking like they are doing something useful.
The surface of the true problem is never scratched.
This is getting old.
Wait wait wait! They never said AR, they said "assault weapon" ... oh wait, it jammed? You're right, must be an AR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adawg38
BAZINGA!!!
This is tragic for sure, and my toughts go out to the innocent victims and their family/friends. But I tottaly agree, all the more reason to push ccw permits but unfortuntley it will be quite the opposite.
More CCWs won't do any good as long as there are places that don't allow an armed public. This shooting and the Aurora theater shootings are both gun free zones. These crazies are sane enough to know to only go to where there aren't any guns.
Yea thats kind of a fine line law from what Ive researched.... Seems like the most they can ask you to do is leave, unless its a government building
While at one point in my life I was pretty sure I understood why there were gun free zones and the legal maneuvering behind it, when I see a Gun Free zone, I am fairly certain they are just not getting my business. The cost of doing business with these places is simply too high.
Things are going to get bumpy and unpleasant.
Concealed is concealed, unless its a school or govt. building.
Read a comment somewhere that said something to the effect of "I really wish there would have been a CCW permit holder there...then there would have been more victims"
I've never wanted to punch somebody through the internet so much in my entire life.
Media: "Another shooting rampage"
Another step on the path...
But that is the problem with the perception. You have police officers that draw their weapons that barely qualify and end up shooting bystanders in NY. You have the same problem with the CCW community, there are people that get a CCW and don't practice, don't practice under stress, or think they are Harry fucking Callahan.Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem
I have not come across anyone in this forum community with that mindset or that attitude, but it is the general perception of the public. Did you know that many of the statistics that are calculated for firearm deaths in violent crime also include the numbers for the criminals that were killed by responsible citizens defending themselves. It doesn't list x% of these deaths were because someone emptied a magazine into a scumbag.
It is the perception of the public, it is the ignorance of the public. It is the responsibility of the responsible gun owner to help educate the ignorant masses, and for the firearms community to stress education and training for those that own firearms. We are a responsible group of firearm enthusiasts, not everyone is the same.
See the perception is not going to change...because even if a CHP holder would be in the right place at the right time, drop the guy with one shot and have no other collateral damage...the media would bury that story. Hell, even if they went to the potential shooter's apartment and found plans to blow up a stadium full of people, they would still not tout the CCW shooter as the hero we all would know him/her to be. I'm not saying we shouldn't try in our communities, but the type of media coverage that is really necessary to change perceptions is impossible in this day and age.Quote:
Originally Posted by kraven251
I heard on 850 this morning it was a "Michael" mask, a la "Halloween."Quote:
Originally Posted by ChadAmberg
Well that was a short lived story.. no longer in the headlines. Not enough people died.