Jon Hammer, still jailed in Mexico

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12-20-2012, 10:34
Ronin13

Jon Hammer, still jailed in Mexico

I'm not sure why once again, the only media outlet talking about this is Fox (just like Benghazi), but this one hits a little closer to home. I'm sure a lot of you have heard about this, and about what is not being done, but an inactive US Marine has been jailed in Mexico after attempting to bring an antique shotgun across the border. He had USBP's permission, they said it would be fine to bring into Mexico, he registered it, and just after crossing the border was arrested and detained by Mexican authorities. It's a shame that next to no one in the administration is doing a damn thing to get this guy released on these bogus charges. If it were me in charge, I would be pressuring the Mexican government... but this is probably going to go down as the Administration that leaves Americans out to dry.[Mad]
12-20-2012, 11:07
Teufelhund

Wait, he's still in prison in Mexico? You've got to be kidding. How do we just leave these guys to rot?

Remember Amir Hekmati? The Marine sentenced to death in Iran? I heard they overturned the death-sentence, but he too is still rotting in a foreign prison, forsaken by us.
12-20-2012, 11:12
gos

Why would the US Border Patrol have *any* legal authority to tell someone what they can bring *INTO* Mexico? We sure as hell do not let Mexican authorities determine the legality of items brought into the United States.

While it sucks he's in jail, I think he screwed up badly.
12-20-2012, 11:14
BushMasterBoy

Amir Hekmati death sentence overturned. But yes, he is still in jail. State Department should be working on these cases, but I think it is still reeling from the Benghazi incident. Last I heard Secretary of State was suffering from a traumatic brain injury. A hundred years ago, we would have just sent in Marines!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Mirza_Hekmati
12-20-2012, 11:17
TFOGGER

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

... Last I heard Secretary of State was suffering from a traumatic brain injury.

Unpossible. One must first have a brain to sustain an injury of this nature.
12-20-2012, 12:41
Fmedges

At first I thought this guy was an idiot but after looking at the facts he did nothing wrong. The family has been told by the state dept that there is nothing that they can do and that idiot carney when asked said he doesn't know anything about it. This shit needs to get resolved soon
12-20-2012, 13:30
BushMasterBoy

I bet if Obama or Hillary visit the jail, they would let him go home with them. Sometimes I wish Mexico was part of the US, so I could go metal detecting for gold there. In fact I think every time we invade a country and liberate it, make it a state! If we are going to shed American blood, we should at least gain territory and resources. Screw world opinion...
12-20-2012, 13:41
hollohas

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Originally Posted by gos

Why would the US Border Patrol have *any* legal authority to tell someone what they can bring *INTO* Mexico? We sure as hell do not let Mexican authorities determine the legality of items brought into the United States.

While it sucks he's in jail, I think he screwed up badly.

Both sides check what you are bringing across, north or south. The Border Patrol checks those things when you exit the country. It's no different than them checking cars for cash as you travel south. You need to declare firearms when you cross the border. It's our attempt to stop gun running...(I know, I know, Fast and Furious, I won't get into the hypocrisy) He declared it in the US and he moved on to file the proper paperwork with the Mexico authorities. They arrested him while he was following the law declaring the gun. The family got a call demanding money when he was arrested. It is plain and simple an extortion attempt. And abhorrent that our government hasn't got the guy out.

It is stupid for anyone to try to bring a gun into Mexico. Even if technically they are following Mexican law...we all know they don't follow their own laws. But his first mistake was going to Mexico in the first place. That said, legally he did nothing wrong, the Mexican authorities are attempting to extort him and his family. It is our government's duty to get him out.
12-20-2012, 13:43
cofi

isnt it possible to go hunting in mexico? how do hunters bring there guns across?
12-20-2012, 13:46
hollohas

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Originally Posted by cofi

isnt it possible to go hunting in mexico? how do hunters bring there guns across?

Yes. They get lucky and don't run into a corrupt Mexican official.
12-20-2012, 14:04
Shootersfab

This is sad and effed up, I hate people. Just yet another sign the world is turning for the worst.
12-20-2012, 14:07
Ronin13

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Originally Posted by hollohas

Both sides check what you are bringing across, north or south. The Border Patrol checks those things when you exit the country. It's no different than them checking cars for cash as you travel south. You need to declare firearms when you cross the border. It's our attempt to stop gun running...(I know, I know, Fast and Furious, I won't get into the hypocrisy) He declared it in the US and he moved on to file the proper paperwork with the Mexico authorities. They arrested him while he was following the law declaring the gun. The family got a call demanding money when he was arrested. It is plain and simple an extortion attempt. And abhorrent that our government hasn't got the guy out.

It is stupid for anyone to try to bring a gun into Mexico. Even if technically they are following Mexican law...we all know they don't follow their own laws. But his first mistake was going to Mexico in the first place. That said, legally he did nothing wrong, the Mexican authorities are attempting to extort him and his family. It is our government's duty to get him out.

THIS!
I wouldn't shed a single tear if the DEVGRU guys were to have a little ride across the border and liberate this guy with extreme prejudice... Seriously, I've been saying it since 2006- we no longer need to be in Iraq, and I think I know the next country we need to squeeze (squeeze meaning 'fix').
12-20-2012, 15:08
hollohas

They say it doesn't matter if he declared the gun...Mexico is claiming he was arrested for being in possession of a weapon that is restricted for use by the Mexican Armed Forces...it was a Sears Roebuck .410 shotgun. A gun runners dream gun, of course. [facepalm]

Seriously folks, stay away from Mexico. We need to bring this guy home.

Here's a letter from lawmakers asking Secretary Clinton to get involved. To my knowledge they haven't received a response.
12-20-2012, 15:55
sniper7

His parents were on O-reily and he said there will be hell to pay if the administration doesn't get him home for christmas.
12-20-2012, 15:56
sniper7

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Originally Posted by hollohas

They say it doesn't matter if he declared the gun...Mexico is claiming he was arrested for being in possession of a weapon that is restricted for use by the Mexican Armed Forces...it was a Sears Roebuck .410 shotgun. A gun runners dream gun, of course. [facepalm]

Seriously folks, stay away from Mexico. We need to bring this guy home.

Here's a letter from lawmakers asking Secretary Clinton to get involved. To my knowledge they haven't received a response.

she won't even go talk to congress let alone head down and talk to the mexicans about releasing this guy. count her out.
12-20-2012, 15:58
Ronin13

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Originally Posted by sniper7

His parents were on O-reily and he said there will be hell to pay if the administration doesn't get him home for christmas.

With our wet noodle, spineless administration that cares not for our own citizens, I'm think that family is going to be very upset, and rightfully so... Where is the public outcry on this?
12-20-2012, 16:04
hollohas

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Originally Posted by sniper7

she won't even go talk to congress let alone head down and talk to the mexicans about releasing this guy. count her out.

Oh be nice, she bumped her head.
12-20-2012, 16:17
Ronin13

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Originally Posted by hollohas

Oh be nice, she bumped her head.

Rosen was talking about this today... He made the comparison that she doesn't play in the NHL or NFL, where a concussion makes it very dangerous to do your job. She's not at risk of getting hit by a 280lb line backer, she's going to sit and talk to congress... sad.
12-20-2012, 16:23
Fmedges

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

With our wet noodle, spineless administration that cares not for our own citizens, I'm think that family is going to be very upset, and rightfully so... Where is the public outcry on this?

This is not being reported by most news outlets so most of the public doesn't know what's going on.
12-20-2012, 18:31
rondog

I hate to say it, but those guys are hoping for help from THIS government, they're probably fucked.
12-21-2012, 11:09
jhood001

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12...-prison-today/

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Jon Hammar, the U.S. Marine who has been in a Mexican prison since August on a dubious weapon charge is being released today, his father confirmed to FoxNews.com.
12-21-2012, 11:40
Zundfolge

FINALLY some good news.
12-21-2012, 11:47
cofi

thank god
12-21-2012, 12:50
BushMasterBoy

Hip Hip Hooray!

http://news.yahoo.com/ex-marine-jail...162239606.html