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Apparently the bad guys can read.
"Journal News gun permit map endangers officers, officials say"
"Inmates at the Rockland County jail are taunting corrections officers by saying they know the guards' home addresses -- information they got from the list published by Westchester-based newspaper, Rockland County Sheriff Louis Falco said."
http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nati...-say-1.4407323
Too bad someone can't hack into the map and add all the newspaper staff.
Total lack of surprise.
how cute. Liberals keeping you safe!
their addresses are out now, to bad they prob dont have anything worth stealing that they would care
we need to endorse a liberal concentration camp, put a fence around california and ship them all there
Easy there.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMBD2112
Well that took longer than expected
I hope that no one gets hurt because of this, but I would hope Janet Hasson and the Journal news would be brought up on charges for being accessories if someone did get hurt
Seems the only logical thing to do is file a class action law suit against the journal news, demanding safe relocation of everybody on the list. That should put them out of business fairly quickly.....
It's just amazing how little shame journalists have. Wouldn't piss on one if his/her face was on fire.
A lawsuit is definitely in order, but this should also fall on the state. This information should not be publicly available. Colorado has appropriate laws blocking release of this info, as should all states.Quote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
A lawsuit for what?Quote:
Originally Posted by wreave
All the paper did was publish information which was ALREADY public record. It absolutely shouldn't be, but it is.
Allowing lawsuits based upon "The defendant obeyed the law but they have money and I'm pissed off at them" is, in the long term, IMHO worse than anything the fishwrap has actually done.
Well I can't say a lawsuit would be successful. There are plenty of things that are legal but if you do them someone may be harmed.
Realistically what is occurring was a foreseeable and predictable event. Anything that came out of that would be a direct result of their actions.
A lot is going to depend on the laws of that state and if any actual damage or loss occurs. If there was they could be held liable. It would be an interesting case to see.
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Originally Posted by centrarchidae
Selling hot coffee to an individual is perfectly legal, and most would even say socially acceptable. Didn't stop the individual a few years back from suing.....just sayingQuote:
Originally Posted by centrarchidae
What if we just sued the paper with frivolous lawsuits like the Brady Bunch did with the gun companies?
something being public record and someone spreading info are 2 different things .Quote:
Originally Posted by centrarchidae
Especially when the publication of such information endangers individuals. There used to be a thing known as ethics.Quote:
Originally Posted by alxone
A concept poorly lacking in our society.
first: to the topic at hand, even my BIL who is DPD is encouraged not to wear his uniform when coming and going from home. for his protection. the CO families are now at greater risk and the "journalist" should be held responsible should anything happen
second: to this comment. when i spill coffee on myself i expect to be scalded, a little red skin a little pain, no big deal. The old lady that sued Mcdonalds over her hot coffee NEEDED SKIN GRAFTS, the coffee she was served removed the skin between her legs, there is no excuse to hand a person a cup of coffee that was boiling in the cup. If you hand me a cup o jo that hot i might sue you also.Quote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
Just because you have freedom of speech, doesn't mean you can yell FIRE in a theater anymore than having the information means you can publish it to the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by centrarchidae
your right to information is trumped by others right to privacy and safety.
I think they should be help criminally liable as an accessory to any crime committed due to the release of that information.
its called responsibility
"Yeah, I did that."
Kind of like the inmates in Idaho suing the beer and winemakers for selling alcohol and no one told these guys that it was addicting and was mood/thought altering?Quote:
Originally Posted by DOC
The NY Post is a bunch of douchebag yellow journalists. Only the lowest-common denominators read that steaming pile. Hopefully anyway. But yeah, this is no surprise when I first heard about it. Now the criminals know which homes to case during the daytime, then rob when the owners are at work.
It's sickening to see the idiots who defend the NY Post's actions. Gun-owners are NOT the same as sex-offenders, so don't try using that argument, ugh.
These damn news papers posting info like this needs to stop. Putting people and their families lives in danger only makes the paper a threat in my eyes. [UZI]
Since you're going to elaborate, let's do it completely. She had placed the cup between her legs and removed the cap to add cream. IIRC, the coffeemaker in question had the thermostat set to 170F -- a bit hotter than I want to drink immediately but hardly "boiling in the cup".Quote:
Originally Posted by rockhound
Yeah pretty hot. I heard they made it that hot so if someone enjoyed the coffee later on and not immediately in the drive thru it would remain hot. But that is what cup holders were made for. I personally don't put anything near my junk that is not business or pleasure. Maybe her muff was cold and thirsty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
No. Like when the Brandy Bunch sued the makers of Beretta for the acts of criminals using their products. Say a criminal gets caught or killed breaking into someones house and they find the paper in their car with the map of gun owners in it. Then charge the paper with accessory to murder just like if they were there helping themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
All gun owners get blamed for the actions of a criminal yet if a paper makes a map for criminals to follow like a treasure map no one would blame them. Its ridiculous. Just give them a taste of accountability even if it wasn't their fault like it isn't gun owners fault for criminal acts. This paper did it with malicious intend gun owners can't even be blamed for that much involvement.
Does that mean that I can't yell "fire" if I smell smoke and see flames?
The "fire in a crowded theater" issue completely sidesteps one point: nobody has yet alleged that the newspaper has printed anything false.
Anybody who sits through a few semesters of college chemistry can make explosives. Does your right to privacy and safety mean that I can't publish my class notes on teh interwebz where bad people might see it?
And do you really want to start telling people that they can't publish uncomfortable-but-truthful-and-already-open-to-the-public information in the name of "safety?"
Really? You want to open that door?
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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke
chemical compounds are not only public record but universal information , your name address and whether or not you own a firearm while it may be public it is not universal information .Quote:
Originally Posted by centrarchidae
LOL, you can do and for the most part say what you want. You may also be held liable for your actions. While it may not be criminal. If your actions are the proximate cause or even a small part of a loss or damage to another you could be held at least partially liable.
A simpleton could figure out that publishing a list like that in a public paper could cause a myriad of problems. The old adage if its predictable, its preventable comes to mind. If something happens to one of those guards homes or families I would think the paper bears a strong liability for their actions.
This is another sad case of the left wing media "creating news" instead of "reporting the news".
Was there some sort of huge public outcry that the names and addresses of legal gun owners be published? Not that I know of. The paper just thought it would be cute and do it. Bad idea.
i hates the media ....... a lotQuote:
Originally Posted by GilpinGuy