Face to face private sale/How the gov knows where the guns are?

So I know what the smart thing to do is, but what is the law in Colorado that regulates how I sell a firearm to another individual who lives in Colorado? Am I required to get photo ID and keep a record of the sale? Or can I just confirm the buyer is of age and accept cash for the firearm and go on my way?

I know the law says that registration is not allowed in Colorado but when you buy a firearm at Walmart or the Local Gun Shop, they know where you live and what firearm you just bought. I don't believe for one second that I fell back into the crowd when I bought my black rifle and went back home with it.

Eventually when they come to the door wanting my black rifle and I tell them I sold it to Mr X and don't have any proof/bill of sale then what happens?

I know this isn't really an answerable question at the moment but maybe more to think about. Perhaps no difference than if I lost my firearms in a harrowing canoe accident.

I imagine there are plenty of folks in NY right now with this running through their head.

Contact your reps and tell them no more gun laws!
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/...ML&MC_targets=

IMO, they won't come door to door. They'll just make them illegal to own/use/transfer/etc. after X amount of time when you're required to register it. If you don't register it and you're caught with one, then your shit gets turned upside down and you're prosecuted. Time will tell.

As for now, you can legally sell to a fellow Colorado resident who is of legal age (18 for long guns, 21 for handguns) and is not a felon. I generally ask to see a CO ID, preferably a CCW, but do not require a bill of sale. There is no legal requirement for you to keep a paper trail of a private party sale at this time.... that is subject to change in the VERY near future I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Sawin

There is no legal requirement for you to keep a paper trail of a private party sale at this time.

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I used to do a bill-of-sale for guns I sold but finally came to the realization that the state wasn't paying me enough for that service and I shredded them all.

FTF in CO w/o an FFL:
* Buyer must be 18+ years old & a CO resident (a LOOK at their DL will identify this) or active duty military with orders (the "with orders" may not apply in this situation, but I believe it does). Handgun restriction of sales to 21+ is only when going through an FFL and does NOT apply to FTF sales where no FFL is used. In CO, anyone 18+ can purchase a handgun from another individual. Of course, that's up to the seller - unless I knew you most of your life I wouldn't do it, but that's me.
* Seller must have no reason to believe the buyer is a prohibited person (no felonies, domestic violence convictions or active restraining orders/orders of protection against them). The seller is not required to know, just not have any reason to believe these exist.

Things like Bill of Sales (BOS), reciepts, copies of buyers/sellers DL, etc. are a matter of HUGE debate and would be details the buyer and seller would need to comes to terms about. Most sellers are satisfied to simply glance at the buyers DL.

Nothing else is required for anything that isn't an NFA item.

Sounds good, so in the end when no one registers anything we can all say that we took advantage of the "buying frenzy" and sold everything thus I have nothing to register.

Sure beats the unfortunate canoeing accident, but honestly I would throw it in a river or lake long before I ever thought about letting them take it away. I am damn sure not going to help arm the people that are posing the threat. And for the record, any registration is = to confiscation.

You didn't hear about the boating accident clause being written up I the new legislation?

If they want to, they can trace it.
You got their email address, name and phone number.

That is more than enough. Imho.

"Sorry I forgot where I buried everything. I'm sure I'll find it when you're least expecting it!"

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Originally Posted by Sawin

a fellow Colorado resident who is of legal age (18 for long guns, 21 for handguns) and is not a felon.

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Do not have to be 21 for a handgun in FTF sale.

Fed law prohibits FFLs from transferring anything but complete rifles or shotguns to under 21, it does not forbid private instate purchase or ownership by under 21.

Just be ready for an uncomfortable conversation one day if your "con artist/nutjob" meter isn't calibrated. It happened to a friend of mine and he's a LEO. Now he only deals with people he knows very well.

I sold all my assault weapons in a private sale in 2011...

:D

I have never owned an assault weapon...used to own some semi-autofeeding rifles, but that was a while back.

I got some sporting rifles but I know nothing of these assault weapons you speak of. Come to think of it, all my sporting rifles are at the bottom of some valley up in the rockies. I was lost and all I had was my rifle collection so I was using them as bread crumbs to help find my way back if need be. Once I got out I never had the desire to return to look for them since it was so remote I doubt I would even be able to find them nor would anyone else for that matter. Not normally something I would do but when your life is on the line...