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Up to 8 years in jail
Its about time
I'd have been arrested the day after. what took so long...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf202
Exactly. Not to mention your truck, gun, and anything else the law can dream of would have been impounded.Quote:
Originally Posted by bogie
What took so long? These 'men' are members of an elite corp of people to whom you are subservient, from the lowly DMV clerk all the way to the President...at least that is what a good number of them want you to think. This shooting, like the dog shootings, is just another example of what the government as a whole actually thinks of the citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by bogie
Of course there are many individuals in the employ of the government who rightly see themselves as true public servants, but these people number fewer and fewer every day.
I hope the clown didn't get to keep the head for his taxidermy biz.
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_2...n-elk-shooting
Planned for 24 hours... the guy who did the shooting was texting his buddy. "He's gonna die tonight."
Well, that's a bad decision that's going to haunt them for the rest of their lives.
Good no more paid vacation either. Straight up premeditated poaching. What I can't believe is they thought they could get away with that crap.
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Originally Posted by trlcavscout
ridiculous it took so long and they better go away (and get fired) for a long time.
It does give me a little hope that there is a slight bit of justice still around.
Glad they got fired
Bet there sentence is misd. probation at worst!
read it, not firedQuote:
Originally Posted by griebel303
on unpaid leave (after 3 weeks of paid leave/vacation) which means they still get benefits.
Guess it's a good thing criminals are stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by wreave
There is a lot of "fail" in that article.
I think 8 years is a bit harsh, but glad to see them get reprimanded.
Wow, hard to believe they could get 8 years. But I guess you pay for your actions.
Thank God an assault rifle was not used. But if that thing was charging at me, I would definitely want a 30 round clip! I just hope there are no Elks on the jury...
8 years is too harsh for 3 felonies?Quote:
Originally Posted by palepainter
So far the only injustice is that they walked free for so long. If Joe Citizen had shot a trophy elk in a neighborhood and had one of his buddies take it away to be butchered, he'd be in the Boulder County Jail before the blood dried on the street.
It was obvious to all that this was a bad decision by the cops involved - not just the shooting of the elk, but the abuse of their office to do so. They deserve whatever the average citizen would get for the elk shooting, plus whatever they should get for the abuse of police powers, plus a bonus. I don't know if that's eight years, but it's certainly legit prison time.
The texts seal the deal. I think they will throw the book at them. Bad shoot. Better an elk than my dog :)
Like I said earlier, the DOW hates poachers and does a fantastic job investigating and prosecuting them, no matter who they are.
It took so long because the DOW makes damn sure they build a solid case for each and every poaching. Some poaching cases take years to file charges.Quote:
Originally Posted by bogie
Those guys are gonna sizzle, crackle and fry like bacon, and they deserve it IMO. They deserve the exact same consequences that any of us, or a couple of rednecks from Texas would face. Their badges should provide absolutely NO protection for them for what they did. It was planned and premeditated, and they have absolute proof of it.
I frequently read the news posts of CPW, and even repeat poachers over many years of poaching trophy's don't get jail time. Typically a large fine and loss of hunting privileges. I suspect these police officers will not get jail time and if they do, only because someone is making an example of them. Either way, they will never be police officers again (rightly so).
Cheers,
Tim
They should have to do a couple years of community service as road kill scoopers.Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper_tim
Ya, I just caught the 8 years. Didn't see the counts, sorry. Couldn't read the story on my iPad.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattR
Where in the hell did that come from? What is the charge for being a redneck from Texas? Is it normal for a redneck from Texas to hunt out of season or without a tag?Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
They would have, if it weren't for those meddling kids...Quote:
Originally Posted by sandman76
Just an example. It's not unheard of for out of state yahoos to go to other states and poach critters. They come from all over, Texas was just an example. Don't get all butt hurt or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
Thanks for the clarification. If this state goes too blue, I may have to run down to Texas.
They need to throw the book at these Jerks. Serious jail time!!
-in so many ways.....Quote:
Originally Posted by John123
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22...ng-elk-earlier
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One of the Boulder police officers arrested on felony charges in connection with the shooting of an elk in Mapleton Hill told other officers he planned to kill the elk during a shift briefing nearly a week before the Jan. 1 killing, according to an arrest-warrant affidavit.
Boulder police Officers Sam Carter, 35, and Brent Curnow, 38, face charges of forgery, tampering with physical evidence and attempting to influence a public official — all felonies — as well as unlawful taking of a trophy elk, conspiracy, a Samson surcharge, killing an elk out of season, unlawful use of an electronic device to unlawfully take wildlife and first-degree official misconduct — all misdemeanors.
The arrest-warrant affidavit says Carter discussed wanting to kill the elk in front of other officers at a work meeting Dec. 26.
Boulder Police Chief Mark Beckner said he has not heard any indication other officers were involved in a conspiracy.
"Cops say a lot of things and joke around about a lot of things because it's a stressful job," he said.
Whenever something like this happens to people, someone always seems to follow-up about how there were warning signs before the event. I guess nobody saw the signs until after this happened too.
Its ok, its a stressful job. They are victims and should be reinstated with raises and maybe a less stressful desk job.
And backpay, don't forget backpay.Quote:
Originally Posted by trlcavscout
Yeah, it's stressful. Writing tickets for speeding on Pearl, telling people not to ride their bikes on sidewalks, making sure people recycle, and dealing with the drunk/high college student.Quote:
Originally Posted by trlcavscout
I hope they get the full 8 years. Premeditated, endangering the public shooting it at night, in town, not notifying dispatch of a discharged weapon, taking the carcass, lying about it etc etc. I hope they get butt fucked by a couple of the guys they put behind bars.
You forgot writing tickets for smoking in public!Quote:
Originally Posted by husky390
Wow, some of you guys need to get over yourselves. On one hand you are demanding they get punished more harsh than an average citizen and the next demanding they should be arrested faster than the average citizen.
This was an investigation. Investigations come in all shapes and sizes, and this one shows no reason to rush it and potentially mess it up. There isn't a threat of further violence to self or others, no potential of the suspects to flee the area, and no reason to file for an arrest warrant until all the facts and potential charges are known. Personally, I thought the charges were filed lightning fast for this whole thing. Considering the list of charges, not only are they being dealt with more harsh than the average poacher, that's all this really is, poaching.
8 years for poaching? really? You think that's justice? 6th amendment people. Stop pissing your pants about them being cops and weigh and measure them just like everyone else. If it were two other guys, the chances of them being suspended from their jobs in any fashion before they were arrested would be very very low. Hell, the chances of even a second news article would probably be zero until sentencing.
Take the hater glasses off for a little while.
Right or wrong law enforcement is held to a higher standard just like the clergy, judges, etc.