http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/dh...charges-filed/
It's for public safety, don't ya know?
Need more info, but from that article, shit is starting tot look grim.
Let's see where this goes. The Feds better have a damn good reason with enough evidence to back it up in court.
as a lot of the other posters have stated...it has started!
That has to be one of the hardest article to read that I have seen in a while. Pick a format and leave the additional BS out of it.
There is more to this story....but what will we be told?
Sounds to me like he was importing and/or exporting guns without the guns being properly marked with the importers stamp. The Canadian connection is interesting, as surplus arms going to Canada are not import marked. So he was probably getting imported guns up in Canada, then transporting or shipping them to his home. Then selling the guns as nice surplus collector items that are not import-stamped, thus increasing their value.
This is not just about taking your guns. This is about taking your guns and then bankrupting your ass so that; 1) You spend all of your money defending your 2nd Amendment Rights and 2)You have no money to buy another firearm. The reason for it is irrelevant!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
SR
Do you always react this way when you only have a piece of a story?
No!! I'm just stating the obvious!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
I have never had a good experience that involved the .gov...it always turns out bad!
very curious to see where this leads. could he be a dealer/distributor for the cartel and guns flow through him thanks to the ATF and Eric Holder. Or could he just be an avid collector and they want to get their hands on all his guns, catalog them and see if they can find anything illegal and then charge his after the fact. Why were they watching him for years? What constituted the watching?
Are we trusting the press this week? I'm confused and a little lost.
Face it if you have over 100 firearms, you are on a list, if you have over 1,000 you are under a microscope. I am curious where this is headed, but there had best be some sort of significant charges filed otherwise this is going to get people more nervous than they already are at the moment.
Or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
Can anyone really make a valid judgment about what's going on with this guy or this investigation from that article? Seriously?
Just because he's a "gun collector" doesn't make him a good guy. Doesn't make him a bad guy, either. But, apparently, I must be missing something in the article because I don't have a clue about what really happened. He could be an innocent guy targeted by an out-of-control gov't agency or he could be a criminal.
Got to love how they worked in the quote about the school being nearby. [Bang]
A little google-fu and here's his website. Looks like he specializes in C&R guns.Quote:
http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/f...0-guns-in-raid
ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) - A federal search warrant affidavit outlines the massive raid that seized nearly 1,500 firearms from the home and business of an Albuquerque man and why the feds were after him.
Last week rifles lined the lawn of a northeast Albuquerque home that belonged to Robert Adams. Homeland Security Investigations was also busy loading hundreds of handguns into boxes.
It took federal agents days to log every weapon seized into evidence.
Four search warrants filed Thursday show the HSI investigators seized nearly 900 firearms from Adams' home. There were 548 handguns and 317 rifles listed in the warrant return inventory.
They also searched his office that day taking 599 pistols and revolvers.
Adams has not been charged with any crimes although Homeland Security said the investigation is not over yet.
Neighbors said Adams was a gun collector, and some heard he was a licensed gun seller, too.
Federal investigators confirm that. However, they're also investigating him for possible gun smuggling, tax evasion and violating importation laws.
Court documents reveal federal agents were watching Adams for years and that some documentation was missing "to determine to whom Adams [was] selling or exporting his firearms."
The guns were also not properly marked possibly to make the guns more valuable and to avoid paying high import taxes, investigators alleged.
However, a bigger concern is that no markings on the guns and missing documents mean the guns are not traceable by law enforcement.
One neighbor who did not want to be identified said it was a shock.
“I didn’t really see the guns but from a distance," the neighbor said. "I saw them being pulling them out into the front yard.
“Its very scary in the fact that the school is so close by makes it seem even more dangerous.”
The search warrant also said Adams was investigated in Canada for keeping about 80 illegal guns in a storage unit. U.S. agents worked with Canadian police on that case.
There was school nearby, wtf does that mean, why does that make this more scary,
Everytime something happens we have to think about the children
Totally agree there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
Read my earlier post- think I nailed it down.
Alarm bells are ringing.
Interfering with the gov't ability to tax everything that moves is probably the most likely reason this guy got raided. You think they're paranoid about gun owners? It's worse with tax evaders that aren't in their club.
That was my point. We need more information before we go off half-cocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
^this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
I'm not the only one who read about this guy being caught with 80 illegal weapons in a locker in Canada right? This guy doesn't sound like a boyscout, but there isn't enough information here to make a call. They are probably waiting until they process all the evidence they gathered in the search warrant before formally pressing charges.