The most difficult profession?

I was thinking about this, this morning when my friend informed me that her mother had brain cancer and she is basically poor. So she wasn't being treated at a great facility. I also lost my mother to ovarian cancer which later spread to the brain, which then became brain cancer four years later.Then I thought about possible jobs where you would have to bear the burden of a death. Many thoughts came up, military applications were kinda moot as you're killing for something you believe in, I keep coming back to oncology doctors as they basically know over 80% of their patents are going to die eventually in less than 5 years. The only treatments available for cancer are painful and well "not fun" so you're basically extending this persons suffering. Yet it's a needed evil because hopefully one day we will understand cancer and be able to treat it.Can others think of other difficult professions?

I'm going to disagree with your post in regards to oncologists. I would guess they get a great deal of satisfaction from the lives they save and that probably outweighs the loss of patients.

Maybe a hospice nurse. You know you will lose every patient. I know my wife worked in a nursing home for a while and it really upset her when a resident she worked with a lot passed.

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Originally Posted by ray1970

I'm going to disagree with your post in regards to oncologists. I would guess they get a great deal of satisfaction from the lives they save and that probably outweighs the loss of patients.

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So your contribution to this thread advising difficult professions is...? Oh wait you're just playing devils advocate.

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Originally Posted by splogan

Maybe a hospice nurse. You know you will lose every patient. I know my wife worked in a nursing home for a while and it really upset her when a resident she worked with a lot passed.

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Quality submission.

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Quality submission. But I think it comes naturally for them. Most of their decisions don't hinge on life and death however IMHO. You know we've got to plan for toilets for our open space and decide if fishing should be allowed on already controlled land where bald eagles nest.

read bailey guns post about his first day as a cop

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read bailey guns post about his first day as a cop

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Provide link. But in all honesty I don't think a cop who protects citizens and is reactive could match the moral dillema of someone who is asking someone to get sicker so they can get better but after they get better will eventually die statistically.

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/16458-Wh...l=1#post136671

heavy shit not a job i would want thats for sure

another one is flight for life medic a couple of days before he killed himself my friend kevin was telling me how burned victims smell like bbq and how its summer time and he cant goto any cookouts :(

I can honestly say I don't think that weighs even close to an oncologists job. The job with the gun implies that the person on the other side is going to end up dead for whatever reason, and if cops were called it's generally a pretty good damn reason. It takes an officer seconds to kill someone. It takes a cancer doc years of treating said "cancer" which there is no cure for... Yet they know it's going to kill said person and make them feel horrible for a long time. At the end of the day you have to sleep with what you've done... Which I doubt either side wants. But think cancer doc wins out.

i dont know i cant stand doctors

edit did you read baileys post it had nothing to do with killing anyone
also if anything i think our nurses/hospic workers have it way rougher as they are constantly dealing with the patient rather then the doctor who spends like 5 miniuts a day talking at them

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i dont know i cant stand doctors

edit did you read baileys post it had nothing to do with killing anyone
also if anything i think our nurses/hospic workers have it way rougher as they are constantly dealing with the patient rather then the doctor who spends like 5 miniuts a day talking at them

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Yes. I did. But I believe taking a life is the ultimate difficulty for a human being.

I have to second the hospice nurse bit. I did it for a year, and was burnt out on it 3 months in. Every pt's family thought that I would have a new perspective that somehow everybody else had missed, and kept asking questions that were subtly directed toward finding a way to "fix them". It gets harder with each visit to cheerily ask somebody how they're doing that day, because you know its going to be worse each week. There's very little we're allowed by Medicare to actually do treatment-wise, so the catch-all answer from the doctors is always to up their narcotics.

Granted, I'm not trying to make this all about me - I realize it was a thousand times harder for the pts who were actually on the other side of the whole situaiton. Hardest? Not necessarily. But as far as professions go, it sucked. I vastly prefer the hospital setting.

I would also nominate EMT's/Paramedics. Regardless of how much they may or may not enjoy it (depends on which one you talk to), it's got to be hard constantly being under that much stress, for criminally-low pay. The average EMT makes less than the average retail worker in a mall kiosk. God bless 'em for doing it anyway.

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Through thick & thin. Dealing with a multitude of issues over time. Depending how long you are in the relationship you will either part ways OR end up dealing with the deterioation of the others health, physically & mentally.
There's the menopause section of live 5-15 yrs where every thing is a major issue, or not.

A parent. watching the kid[s] grow up, bump, bruises, their "relationships" good, bad , indifferent. Trying to have them understand there is evil out there and TRY to be vigilant Dealing with their addictions (if any) helping them even if not asked when you know money is tight (a parent and kid) . At one time our daughter worked in a hospice / care facility. During that time her grandmother, cousin and friend all passed. she finally gave notice. We asked her why and she said it was time to get away from so much death.
When they are overseas serving our country, wondering/worrying [if] you might get that "Knock on the door"

In summation: No one profession has a market on the toughest. The LE's we know all tell us and our kid, They would never do what she does. Keeping in mind, like her at one time, they are all EOD' high risk skill sets.
No matter where you work, what you do some one always has it tougher or easier, depending on you outlook of life.

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I am sure watching anybody suffer would be difficult. Although, I have a surgeon in the family and they get use to it. Listening to them, it is more like a puzzle…something to solve.

I think any job where one puts himself in harm’s way is by far the most difficult. Human instinct is one of survival. In order to put yourself into harm’s way, one must defy that instinct. I can say I truly respect these people. I don’t necessarily respect those in the medical profession as a matter of course.

I also think of the guys that stormed the beaches at Normandy…talk about hell on earth. I can’t imagine. So many guys through history have come back shells of what they once were. Sacrificing your life and killing is by far the most difficult thing asked of any person.

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Being a SPOUSE AND parent

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Not really a profession, and not really reality, but I think the most difficult, in terms of dealing with death, would have to be an immortal- everyone you know and love will die, and then you have to go through it over and over and over again...

Back to reality- Death is easy, life is hard, that said, I think being a burn unit doc/nurse would be horrible. Paramedic as well- you're exposed to some of the worst things. Death and injuries aside, I really can say that being a career Special Operations Operator would be pretty tough in terms of stress and attachments- you're away from your family constantly, you see death more than anyone else, and your job has the highest divorce rate of any. YMMV.

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So your contribution to this thread advising difficult professions is...? Oh wait you're just playing devils advocate.

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Just disagreeing with you. I couldn't think of an actual occupation that would meet your criteria off the top of my head.

I don't know if one could classify any profession as more difficult than the next as there is not set standard. Most difficult technically? Most difficult physical labor? Etc. Someone might see one profession as absolutely unbearable, whereas another person finds joy in it.

I could never work in a factory on an assembly line. This would be right up there with being imprisoned to me. Others would view the job I do now with equal disdain.

I would have to say DHS case worker would be a hell of a job to have. You're constantly immersed in the worst parts of other peoples lives, in way more detailed and intimate levels than say a cop or a paramedic. You make decisions that alter the lives of children, and split up families. You hear about the horrible bullshit people do to one another on a daily basis, and somehow have to not let all of that infect your dealing with the next person you meet.

Lol, I was a line supervisor at a supplement factory for a year or two. Much like prison, there was such abject boredom and repetition that I was able to learn Indonesian from one of my co-workers, as he didn't speak much English, and Indo was easier to pick up. We used to philosophize about how the manager's head looked much like the top of a penis, whenever he walked the floor. Grin.

My $0.02. ICU nursing, because that's what I know. Dealing with patients and families at quite possibly the worst time in their life. Dealing with the anguish of having a loved one die too soon. Dealing with the anguish of families as they decide to remove their loved one from life support. Dealing with being the only human contact someone has before they die because they have no one or their family decides not the be there. And yet nursing has been one of the most rewarding thing I have ever done!

neonatal intesive care unit (nicu)

at least with dying old people, you know they lived their lives. but one a baby or child is hurting, suffering and or dying, there is no good way to look at it. (unless you are a pro abortionist). i couldnt handle seeing hurting children (and their families)

not much else would be that bad.

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neonatal intesive care unit (nicu)

at least with dying old people, you know they lived their lives.....

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My wife was a NICU RN....prior to that she worked oncology at Children's Hospital....the stories she'd come home with....just heart breaking.



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I've often thought that some jobs require the wearing of a uniform to allow the employee to remove their occupation and become a semi-normal human being once they are no longer wearing their uniform.

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neonatal intesive care unit (nicu)

at least with dying old people, you know they lived their lives. but one a baby or child is hurting, suffering and or dying, there is no good way to look at it. (unless you are a pro abortionist). i couldnt handle seeing hurting children (and their families)

not much else would be that bad.

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A huge 2nd. My daughter spent almost 3 months in the NICU and to watch people loose their children on a somewhat regular basis will haunt my wife and I for the rest of our lives. I'm not sure how NICU nurses do it.

Why is it so hard for people to deal with death? Newsflash- we all die. Today, tomorrow, whenever it is, it happens, to everyone. Pain and suffering is part of life. Tough jobs? How about a rancher who has to get up at the asscrack of dawn and feel his way in the dark out to the feilds to get to his livestock before they freeze or starve. How about the oil feild worker out in the middle of effin nowhere working up close and personal with equipment and forces that will kill him and his buddies in a heartbeat, or cost him an arm or leg for a small mistake.
Life is tough, work for a lot of people, is tough. Dealing with death, pain, and suffering, is not the toughest thing going.

working for Feinstein or Pelosi.

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working for Feinstein or Pelosi.

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You guys are depressing.

Is there a thread for the best profession? I vote independently wealthy Male (straight) Porn star.

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You guys are depressing.

Is there a thread for the best profession? I vote independently wealthy Male (straight) Porn star.

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I'd say fighter pilot. But you said that, didn't you. ;)