Starting Reloadin

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02-20-2013, 08:56
Dylan Never Sleeps

Starting Reloading

I suppose it's a good time to post up a thread about reloading. After researching for months on whether or not it was worth it to reload, I figured that right now, with the ammo shortage and all, is the perfect time to get into reloading. Opinions and suggestions are welcome. The actual reloading equipment is unfortunately on back order Midway, but here is a list of it:
-Lee Classic Turret Press W/Auto-Index
-.223 dies
-.45 ACP dies
-9mm Luger dies
-2 extra turrets

I am gonna purchase a rotary rock tumbler from Harbor Frieght but a buddy of mine has an ultrasonic cleaner that he is letting me use for the time being until I can get my own. Amazingly enough, down where I am stationed in "Used" Mexico, there are actually some reloading supplies available. Granted, it is very, very limited, but they have 9mm bullets, .224" bullets, primers, and some powders available. For handgun loading I got some Hodgdon Clays powder, and some 9mm Speer Gold Dot Hollow Points, but have been unable to get any .45 bullets. Primers for pistols here are hit and miss, but the shop I buy from gets some in about once a week. For the .223, I got some 53gr Sierra Match King's, Accurate 2520 Powder (definitely not my first choice, but make do with what is available right?), and some CCI Small Rifle Magnum Primers. Due to a glaring lack of load data online regarding the use of AA2520 Powder, I had to place a call directly to Sierra Bullets this morning, and the gentleman I spoke to on the phone was able to find me the load data for exactly what I was reloading, so many thanks go out to Sierra for their fantastic customer service regarding it.

Before I sit down and start reloading, I am going to read through the Lee's manual, and I have already read through the ABC's of Reloading. I think after reading through the mass of info on the web, and the info in the two books I will finally be ready to really get cracking on building up my own loads. Again, if anyone has any suggestions or opinions let me know!
02-20-2013, 09:00
BuffCyclist

Have you checked with titanreloading.com for the press or dies? I ordered my press (lee classic breech lock single stage) from them and they not only had them in stock but shipped it the next day. Cabelas had my lee carbide 4die .40 in stock and shipped next day too.
02-20-2013, 09:13
Dylan Never Sleeps

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Originally Posted by BuffCyclist

Have you checked with titanreloading.com for the press or dies?

No, I didn't unfortunately. Oh well, they should be here next week anyways, so it's not that big of a deal to me, but I do appreciate the info!
02-20-2013, 09:37
dwalker460

Powder measure/thrower?
Powder scale?
Case trimmer?
Calipers?
Primer pocket cleaning tool?
Primer pocket decrimp tool (if using military .223 brass)?

Would not get a rotary tumbler, just takes too long. Highly recommend the standard vibratory tumbler. HF's is about $20 more expensive than the Frankfort Arsenal one that Midway, Sportsmans, etc carries.

I love 2520 for .223, but I am out of it atm.
02-20-2013, 09:44
Dylan Never Sleeps

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Originally Posted by dwalker460

Powder measure/thrower?
Powder scale?
Case trimmer?
Calipers?
Primer pocket cleaning tool?.

All these were in the Lee Kit, minus the Calipers which I already have some digital ones

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Originally Posted by dwalker460

Primer pocket decrimp tool (if using military .223 brass)?

Still need to buy this, but I would say 98% of my LC brass has already been decrimped, however, I have a few that aren't, so I will put it on a list.

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Originally Posted by dwalker460

Would not get a rotary tumbler, just takes too long. Highly recommend the standard vibratory tumbler. HF's is about $20 more expensive than the Frankfort Arsenal one that Midway, Sportsmans, etc carries.

Not a bad idea, I'll do some more reading about it, and probably go with the FA one. That'll go on the list as well.

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Originally Posted by dwalker460

I love 2520 for .223, but I am out of it atm.

Good to hear. I was hoping to get some CFE223, IMR4895, H335, or IMR8208XBR, but none of them were available when I got it so I ended up with the 2520.

Thanks for the suggestions!
02-20-2013, 12:08
dwalker460

I use CFE223 as well, I like it a lot. I also use Tac, X-Terminator, Win 748, for .223/6mmx45, H110 for 300blk, Clays for 9mm/45
02-20-2013, 13:36
Dylan Never Sleeps

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Originally Posted by dwalker460

Clays for 9mm/45

How do you like Clays? I have read a ton of loads that use it so I figure it is a pretty good jumping off point for pistol loads.
02-20-2013, 14:29
mackbamf

I've had good luck with Titegroup for 9mm...
03-08-2013, 19:54
katuil

I have found this to work very well on case cleaning: I gallon milk jug, 1 teaspoon dawn dish soap, 1 teaspoon Lemi Shine Powder (walmart) and very hot water. I let it sit around for a day or two and then rinse. I decap first, but you don't need to. Then put in tumbler until you think it's ready. In the tumbler I use lizard bedding (walnut). I also put a used dryer sheet in, seems to keep the dust down some. This seems to work extremely well and the lizard bedding does not get dirty and I do not add any liquids to it. Sorry no pictures yet, but the brass looks new.
03-08-2013, 19:59
Dylan Never Sleeps

Starting Reloadin

Quote:

Originally Posted by katuil

I have found this to work very well on case cleaning: I gallon milk jug, 1 teaspoon dawn dish soap, 1 teaspoon Lemi Shine Powder (walmart) and very hot water. I let it sit around for a day or two and then rinse. I decap first, but you don't need to. Then put in tumbler until you think it's ready. In the tumbler I use lizard bedding (walnut). I also put a used dryer sheet in, seems to keep the dust down some. This seems to work extremely well and the lizard bedding does not get dirty and I do not add any liquids to it. Sorry no pictures yet, but the brass looks new.

I appreciate the info! Thank you very much! Cheers!

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03-18-2013, 15:00
eppy

I am also interested in reloading, is there ant books I should get or one I should stay away from to help get the ball rolling
03-18-2013, 15:38
Great-Kazoo

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Originally Posted by eppy

I am also interested in reloading, is there ant books I should get or one I should stay away from to help get the ball rolling

Sticky top of A&R forum. You can never have too many Books.
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/18232-Reloading-Links
03-18-2013, 16:31
Dylan Never Sleeps

Starting Reloadin

Definitely read the sticky and read as much as you can on the subject, be it online, or in books.

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04-03-2013, 13:28
ColoradoMike

Eppy, Read all you can and also take a peek at some of the YouTube videos out there.....you can pick up some good tips! Also, if you can find someone that already reloads you may want to talk to them about mentoring you on the basics.

I love reloading and I am ALWAYS learning new things....I have one caveat....TRUST BUT VERIFY.....some folks my or may not be doing things safely.

Remember....start small....be meticulous.....check your measurements!

It may sound like it is "troublesome" but once you get the hang of things it will pay off dividends in the future!

Cheers!

Mike
04-05-2013, 03:34
losttrail

Here's my experience with a FA tumbler.

I purchased one in 2009 from Sportsman's Warehouse as a secondary several years ago when I started shooting more, so I could do rifle brass in one and pistol in another. My primary was an old Lyman circa 1985.

The FA died within a month and under not heavy use. The Lyman was getting the majority of the workout. I returned it and got a replacement. Within 6 months the second FA died.

I replaced it with a Lyman Turbo 1200 which is still going strong. The original Lyman died this past December so I'm back down to one but my shooting volume has dropped off also.

Just my experience.
04-05-2013, 07:06
rondog

Quote:

Originally Posted by losttrail

Here's my experience with a FA tumbler.

I purchased one in 2009 from Sportsman's Warehouse as a secondary several years ago when I started shooting more, so I could do rifle brass in one and pistol in another. My primary was an old Lyman circa 1985.

The FA died within a month and under not heavy use. The Lyman was getting the majority of the workout. I returned it and got a replacement. Within 6 months the second FA died.

I replaced it with a Lyman Turbo 1200 which is still going strong. The original Lyman died this past December so I'm back down to one but my shooting volume has dropped off also.

Just my experience.

Similar experience here. FA tumbler crapped out, went to the Lyman 1200. The 1200 runs circles around what the FA could do. The FA had a flat bottom, where the 1200 has a bottom shaped like an upside-down donut or bagel....the center of it rises up. This seems to greatly enhance the "churning" ability of the 1200 and really gets the brass and media moving. I could easily overload the FA and bog it down to where it wouldn't do shit, but that 1200 will handle a surprising amount of brass and media.

One thing, put the tumbler on a hard surface like a concrete floor, etc. Carpeting will absorb some of the vibrations and diminish the effectiveness of the tumbler, and those things usually draw their cooling air in from the bottom as well. So carpeting will also mess up the airflow and make 'em overheat.

Good luck with the reloading! It's addictive.
04-05-2013, 09:28
ColoradoMike

I have two tumblers...one is a FA that came with my purchase of a guy's reloading equipment I snagged on Craigslist and the other is a Harbor Freight one.....

http://www.harborfreight.com/18-lb-v...ose-96923.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/c...mage_11984.jpg

The Harbor Freight 18 lb vibratory bowl tumbler is on sale on their website for $159. You can pick these up even cheaper at times on sale as well. ALSO if you get "American Rifleman" they usually have harbor freight coupons for one item at 20% off.

I have been using this tumbler with walnut media (again purchased from HF at a MUCH cheaper price than Sportsmans or other places) and it works like a champ!

On a side note...the HF tumbler runs much quieter than the FA one. It has more than 5 times the volume (estimate) of the FA and is a solid tumbler! They say you can do liquid in the tumbler as well. This is TRUE. There is a hose adapter that is attached to the bowl. NOT TO WORRY if you only want to do dry media. The hose has a sturdy cutoff that prevents any media from coming out of that port.
04-05-2013, 09:46
losttrail

Quote:

Originally Posted by rondog

Similar experience here. FA tumbler crapped out, went to the Lyman 1200. The 1200 runs circles around what the FA could do. The FA had a flat bottom, where the 1200 has a bottom shaped like an upside-down donut or bagel....the center of it rises up. This seems to greatly enhance the "churning" ability of the 1200 and really gets the brass and media moving. I could easily overload the FA and bog it down to where it wouldn't do shit, but that 1200 will handle a surprising amount of brass and media.

One thing, put the tumbler on a hard surface like a concrete floor, etc. Carpeting will absorb some of the vibrations and diminish the effectiveness of the tumbler, and those things usually draw their cooling air in from the bottom as well. So carpeting will also mess up the airflow and make 'em overheat.

Good luck with the reloading! It's addictive.

Great points. The Lyman is easily 4 times more active than the FA was. Better results in about 1/4 the time of the FA. The only detriment of the Lyman is the open 'grill' of the lid lets dust fly about. But I have a plastic bag that I slide over the bowl that keeps it in. That and a couple of tablespoons of Brasso.