Is this in our future? http://www.9news.com/news/article/31...ammo-magazines
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Is this in our future? http://www.9news.com/news/article/31...ammo-magazines
Someone please copy text and paste it in reply since I am on my cell phone.
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WATERTOWN, N.Y. - Nate Haddad retired from active duty in the U.S. Army in 2010 (following 12 years of service) after he hurt his shoulder during special forces training.
In January, he says he was parked along a road not far from his home in the state's North Country, where he still works at Fort Drum as a civilian employee.
When approached by police, he told them he was meeting someone interested in perhaps buying from him some empty, 30-round magazines for an AR-15 rifle, the same type he once carried into combat.
Since 1994, however, magazines over 10 rounds have been illegal in New York state, unless they were manufactured prior to when that law went into effect.
"I certainly did not think I was committing a felony crime by having these," Haddad told WGRZ-TV, while speaking of the magazines, which he claims he bought at an army surplus store.
"My understanding of what I had in my possession was that it was manufactured before 1994, but the arresting officers told me otherwise after I showed them the magazines that I had in my possession," Haddad said.
Haddad now finds himself charged with five counts of Criminal Possession of a Weapon in the third-degree, a class-D felony in New York state punishable by up to seven years in prison.
Earlier this week, Jefferson County prosecutors offered Haddad a deal, according to Haddad's attorney Seth Buchman, who said the offer was for his client to plead to five misdemeanor counts, in exchange for which Haddad would get a conditional discharge, sparing him from incarceration.
Haddad turned down the offer.
"Even if I took that deal, I would still be branded as a criminal, and I don't think I should be," Haddad said.
Beyond principle, though, there is also a practical reason behind Haddad's reluctance to plead guilty.
"At this point, I can't say for sure how doing so might impact my access to Fort Drum. If it were to be restricted, then I would likely lose my job," Haddad said.
The Jefferson County District Attorney's Office did not return a phone call seeking comment. It is often said that the price for freedom is high. Though that phrase is usually in reference to the waging of wars, it is applicable in Haddad's current battle to maintain his freedom.
Waging a defense in a criminal case is costly, and so Haddad's brother, who still lives in Chautauqua County, has started raising funds though an on-line site to defray the cost of Haddad's legal bills.
In just one-month's time, nearly $40,000 has been pledged toward an ultimate goal of $100,000.
"I am absolutely touched by the generosity of people who have donated anywhere from five dollars to even $300," Haddad said.
WATERTOWN, N.Y. - Nate Haddad retired from active duty in the U.S. Army in 2010 (following 12 years of service) after he hurt his shoulder during special forces training.
In January, he says he was parked along a road not far from his home in the state's North Country, where he still works at Fort Drum as a civilian employee.
When approached by police, he told them he was meeting someone interested in perhaps buying from him some empty, 30-round magazines for an AR-15 rifle, the same type he once carried into combat.
Since 1994, however, magazines over 10 rounds have been illegal in New York state, unless they were manufactured prior to when that law went into effect.
"I certainly did not think I was committing a felony crime by having these," Haddad told WGRZ-TV, while speaking of the magazines, which he claims he bought at an army surplus store.
"My understanding of what I had in my possession was that it was manufactured before 1994, but the arresting officers told me otherwise after I showed them the magazines that I had in my possession," Haddad said.
Haddad now finds himself charged with five counts of Criminal Possession of a Weapon in the third-degree, a class-D felony in New York state punishable by up to seven years in prison.
Earlier this week, Jefferson County prosecutors offered Haddad a deal, according to Haddad's attorney Seth Buchman, who said the offer was for his client to plead to five misdemeanor counts, in exchange for which Haddad would get a conditional discharge, sparing him from incarceration.
Haddad turned down the offer.
"Even if I took that deal, I would still be branded as a criminal, and I don't think I should be," Haddad said.
Beyond principle, though, there is also a practical reason behind Haddad's reluctance to plead guilty.
"At this point, I can't say for sure how doing so might impact my access to Fort Drum. If it were to be restricted, then I would likely lose my job," Haddad said.
The Jefferson County District Attorney's Office did not return a phone call seeking comment. It is often said that the price for freedom is high. Though that phrase is usually in reference to the waging of wars, it is applicable in Haddad's current battle to maintain his freedom.
Waging a defense in a criminal case is costly, and so Haddad's brother, who still lives in Chautauqua County, has started raising funds though an on-line site to defray the cost of Haddad's legal bills.
In just one-month's time, nearly $40,000 has been pledged toward an ultimate goal of $100,000.
"I am absolutely touched by the generosity of people who have donated anywhere from five dollars to even $300," Haddad said.
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A compelling reason for expanding veterans preference in the hiring process for first responders.
I was going to donate but there is no PayPal link and I will not enter my c/c info...Why is people so dumb?
Shame- I was stationed there- got pulled over a few times, never was searched (but wouldn't ever tell the Police anything more than what they need to know). NY is the perfect police state... once the rest of the country starts following their example you know it's time... "The chair is against the wall. John has a long mustache."
repost, but the other thread is locked.
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/86109-It...ight=fort+drum
I do wonder why he thought the mags were made prior to '94. All the mags I've been issued while in the military since that time have all been date stamped. I have a few '94 prebans with black followers and no dates.
I looked through the locked thread and someone posted a statement that the mags were stamped with "Military/LE use only", which would indicate they were post '94 ban. So, his argument would be he didn't know the state law.
Screwed up situation all around.
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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck
^^^ I was wondering when you would show!!
9 news is trying to prep us for whats to come if our mag ban passes.... branding us as criminals from the start
We'll be domestics.Quote:
Originally Posted by jreifsch80
I'm taking up basket weaving, it's seems just innocuous enough to remain off of any ban list.....for now. -Bloomberg will no doubt find fault with that as well.
I think it's bullshit no matter how you slice it. But...I don't live in NY and I know I can't have certain items there. WTF was this guy thinking?
Now if he were in Washington DC, he'd have the David Gregory case to cite as "prior case law"
and
perhaps with a good lawyer, have 1/2 a chance of acquittal.
I would not be surprised if he either posted or replied to an armslist ad that was a police sting.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBelly
Another great reason NOT TO TALK TO POLICE. It's called the 5th admendment from the bill of rights, enact it!!!
Will your basket hold more than 12 ounces?Quote:
Originally Posted by hatidua