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I wonder what laws they were breaking? The sale was not in Denver.
Infuriating! But I would like more details.
God I hate "Journalists" ... I've known many over the years (socially and family) and they're all reprehensible narcissistic schmucks.
Its gonna happen, it fits the agenda
That's what I was about to say- reading that little narrative it's pretty vague... I'd like to know more details before jumping to any conclusions.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalmeow
I sent them an email to ask why they are doing that. Doubt I'll hear back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
People who purposely lie and try to entrap should be held accountable.
Agreed, I emailed the guy and told him to report them to the police and other news agencies. Hopefully something will come out of it but I have my doubts.Quote:
Originally Posted by USAFGopherMike
I linked it to Fox's FB page asking for comment. How long before they delete it? Or will they comment? I gave them the 'opportunity' to respond before I linked it to my FB page. :)
The guy emailed me back and said he is talking with 9news about it and has reported them to the BATFE.
good but cant trust any media!Quote:
Originally Posted by jrock
link is dead for me
http://www.armslist.com/posts/146266...sing-armslist-Quote:
Originally Posted by rockhound
FOX31 HIDDEN CAMERA CREW USING ARMSLIST.
Be aware that Julie Hayden and Josh Bernstein are using this site to set up meetings with honest gun owners. I was almost scammed by them. Luckily I recognized Julie and told her they were attempting a straw purchase of my rifle (using her producer's money along with a fake name and address).
They went by the names Chris and Cheryl when they met with me. They tried to buy 30 round magazines just outside Denver claiming they were legal residents of Clear Creek County. They broke SEVERAL laws while trying to make ME out to be the bad guy.
Just be aware that they are out there. If anything smells funny walk away...or point out the illegality of their activities.
Edit: Thanks to those that have contacted me. Many have asked about their vehicle. They were in a black Cadillac crossover. I'm fairly certain they were filming from a late model Jeep Grand Cherokee across the Home Depot parking lot. I had a phone interview with 9news about this and I'm reporting them to BATFE. Keep the faith.
BTW, their contact info is as follows:
Julie.hayden@kdvr.com - Hidden camera reporter
peter.maroney@kdvr.com - President of KDVR (he actually responded to my email...totally worthless brush off)
josh.bernstein@kdvr.com - Reporter
Chris.lupenski@kdvr.com - He's the producer. Josh tried to use Chris's name and mountain residency (and cash?) to purchase my gun after I told him I couldn't sell to a Denver resident.
Give em a piece of your mind. If anybody is hooked up with RMGO or a decent lawyer I'd like to get this to them as well. Let's get this out there.
I'd like to see them all fired and banned from journalism.. some jail time with a large repeat offender rapist named bubba would be good too.
I can't be sure, but I think I may have been contacted this afternoon by someone trying to come up with a news story. I'm pretty certain I didn't say anything incriminating, but we all know how a comment can be taken out of context.
From this point on, I'll definitely be more careful of who I talk with. Don't take it personally, but I'll probably ask a few more questions before I take on new gun trust clients.
RWW
PS. Somebody send me a PM if you hear my voice on some news station. I almost never watch TV for news so I'd probably never see it. Thanks.
Fox31 was the station that did a sting on a bunch of auto repair shops in the area early in the year. They did a good job at causing a mess at a sister facility to ours. In that sting, they used a Jeep Grand Cherokee as well.
I posted the link there as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefe's AR
Guess it's a time for me to quit using fox31 for news. Idiots. Good job to the guy who didn't go through with the sale and is passing the word
Is there any chance that they're trying to record people not agreeing to illegal transactions, to prove that private sales aren't a big deal?
Yeah, sure....... If you beleive that, I have some ocean front property in AZ. that I would sell you cheap. You just need to wait for CA. to fall off first.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalmeow
Bwhahahaha!!!! [hahhah-no][hahhah-no]Quote:
Originally Posted by generalmeow
I wish that was the world we're living in. *sigh*Quote:
Originally Posted by generalmeow
[facepalm][fail][facepalm]Quote:
Originally Posted by generalmeow
Yeah, that would make for great ratings and surely get them an investigative journalism award..Quote:
Originally Posted by generalmeow
You funny man, you make joke [ROFL2]
What did they do?Quote:
Originally Posted by streetglideok
Ok, I must be completely ignorant. What part of the transaction was illegal?
Hypothetically if he called the cops on the spot and said they tried to buy the rifle with fake identities, could they have been arrested and charged? Would the local PD or sheriff actually show up?
Oh, if only they could have met up with an ATF agent selling a SBR or SBS..... Now that would have made for some good TV.
I wouldn't be surprised if they try to infiltrate this forum too...
What makes you think they haven't?
i would get a hoot hearing Pete Boyles talk about this.
An update to my earlier post. It looks as though I overreacted. The inquiry I received turned out to be legit (I think). It was a phone inquiry which is a little unusual... and then the conversation was a bit unusual... which left me questioning if I had just been had... and then I signed on to this forum and saw this thread.
I guess my mind just connected all the dots and I assumed my goose was cooked. I still don't think I said anything that would give a news outlet a juicy quote, but I'll definitely be more careful in the future. I think I may actually add a field to my questionnaire that asks for your forum name in addition to the line asking "how did you hear about me?"
These are certainly strange times.
RWW
I'm glad I don't own guns any more and don't have to deal with this nonsense
Gotcha news at its worst.
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Originally Posted by tmleadr03
Sending you a pm to the link since its kind of off topic
SO you guys who posted on facebook, how do we see that and see if they comment on it.
Local PD? No. Hell no!Quote:
Originally Posted by spongejosh
Sheriff. You bet your ass. As unfortunate as we here in Colorado are for a lot of our LE we should all be thankful for our Sheriff representation as they are truly on the side of freedom.
If the OP hadn't recognized Julie Hayden and sold her a firearm, did either violate anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by spongejosh
The law states, a private citizen may sell or transfer a firearm or ammunition to another private citizen without conducting the transaction through a licensed gun dealer, so long as both parties are citizens of Colorado and the seller reasonably knows the purchaser is not a prohibited person from owning firearms.
If the OP had called law enforcement, they would have showed up no matter if it was PD or SO. To be arrested and charged, they would have had to violate a state statute. Which one do you think they violated? You mentioned fake identities; did they present fraudulent documents or just give the OP a name other than their real name? Do you think that a private citizen telling another private citizen a different name other than their own is a crime? Because, if that is a crime, then a WHOLE lot of us would have committed a crime when we were younger and looking to pick up girls in bars with a false name!
I'm not looking to be confrontational in this. I wholeheartedly disagree with 'surprise journalism'.