Martial Law

[10mm-man]

Just quotes in the media from the governor and mayor saying the were either "asking" or "requesting" people to stay home. There are plenty of video clips available where both are using those terms.

Gotcha! What about the post 2 above ya? Seems it doesn't have to be said, just contain the elemets of, no?

[Bailey Guns]

Gotcha! What about the post 2 above ya? Seems it doesn't have to be said, just contain the elemets of, no?

Yeah. Elements like military forces in control. That didn't happen here. As a matter of fact the Washington Post printed an article that stated Nat'l Guard troops were not allowed to assist on scene immediately after the bombings.

We have some of the elements of an alien invasion too: eyewitness accounts of "flying saucers", dead aliens in Roswell, unexplained phenomenon, etc. All but the most important part...aliens actually invading.

[losttrail]

Yeah. Elements like military forces in control. That didn't happen here. As a matter of fact the Washington Post printed an article that stated Nat'l Guard troops were not allowed to assist on scene immediately after the bombings.

We have some of the elements of an alien invasion too: eyewitness accounts of "flying saucers", dead aliens in Roswell, unexplained phenomenon, etc. All but the most important part...aliens actually invading.

Aliens are invading and have been for decades. Now they are getting drivers licenses, free healthcare, free education, welfare, in state tuition, amnesty........

And yes, there were 'military' forces in control, or at least paramilitary.

The police.

Police departments nowdays are equiped and trained very similarly to the military.

Mulitple reports of people stepping outside their homes when the police/SWAT teams were on the streets and being TOLD/ORDERED to "Get the f___ back inside." Doesn't sound much like a "request" when a uniformed officer with an M4, sidearm and all the protective gear yells that.

[Bailey Guns]

Aliens are invading and have been for decades. Now they are getting drivers licenses, free healthcare, free education, welfare, in state tuition, amnesty........

And yes, there were 'military' forces in control, or at least paramilitary.

The police.

Police departments nowdays are equiped and trained very similarly to the military.

Mulitple reports of people stepping outside their homes when the police/SWAT teams were on the streets and being TOLD/ORDERED to "Get the f___ back inside." Doesn't sound much like a "request" when a uniformed officer with an M4, sidearm and all the protective gear yells that.

And do you really think that was anything more than isolated examples of hyped up and stressed out cops overreacting? I'm not saying there weren't some abuses. But to portray that as an "out of control" gov't seems like a stretch to me.

And cops, despite their training and equipment, are civilians. They may dress like the military and have some of the same gear and tactics, but they're still subject to civil control.

[losttrail]

And do you really think that was anything more than isolated examples of hyped up and stressed out cops overreacting? I'm not saying there weren't some abuses. But to portray that as an "out of control" gov't seems like a stretch to me.

Nowhere did I say that the government was "out of control". I simply question some of the actions and motives based upon a history of events and reactions. I look at what politicians are motivated by, the legislation they pass and attempt to pass and do not believe that they have the best interests of "the people" in mind.

Our rights are being erroded every day. Thus I question the motives and look at the actions of those that are our "elected representatives". When I see things that don't make sense to me, I attempt to understand what other possibilities there could be.

And cops, despite their training and equipment, are civilians. They may dress like the military and have some of the same gear and tactics, but they're still subject to civil control.

And above the Chief of Police, what is the chain of command? All the way to the top please.

[Bailey Guns]

And above the Chief of Police, what is the chain of command? All the way to the top please.

The Chief usually answers to a City Manager or equivalent (depending on the city or size of the city), who answers to the Mayor. I don't think the Mayor answers to anyone. The state might take jurisdiction in an issue but a mayor isn't subordinate to a state official.

What's your point?

[losttrail]

The Chief usually answers to a City Manager or equivalent (depending on the city or size of the city), who answers to the Mayor. I don't think the Mayor answers to anyone. The state might take jurisdiction in an issue but a mayor isn't subordinate to a state official.

What's your point?

I'm sure that in a EoW/SHTF scenario, the mayor would answer to the governor who would then answer to the POTUS.

In certain circumstances I would imagine that local DA's might be involved along with state then federal AG's and thus POTUS again, with POTUS being CiC.

Just pointing out that police departments could theoretically become military units, MP's in certain situations.

Long stretch but not out of the realm of possibilities.

All things are possible, some are not probable.