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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm-man View Post
    C&R are handled different, that is why I ask. Sound like General did some investigating. I don't deal in C&R so clueless... The other reason is you do not have to be an FFL to ship a gun(that you own) to another FFL, so why would you have to to ship a C&R? As a C&R dealer do you have to maintain a logbook? If so then yes, you would have to log to DD Armory and then DDArmory to your FFL we would ship to. Or is the C&R handgun owned by you personally?
    I do have my FFL 03, it is owned by me personally, and I can ship it to any FFL, as could anyone ship it to any FFL (even without having your own FFL). The difference between you and me is the cost. You can ship USPS, which costs $5.80. I think I have to ship UPS or Fedex, and they require overnight shipping. So probably $60+.

    If you can do this for me, and want to charge a fee for your time, it will still come in below the $60. I don't want to put you out, so if you don't want to go to the trouble I understand.

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    Send me a PM. I am not convinced I need to log it. I am not recieving it, just using my license to fullfill the USPS requirement not the ATF requirement. I would say we ship it from you to the FFL and ill go down with a copy of my license to the USPS. If they require my company name on the box then yes I'll log it.

    Waiting to hear from my ATF laison, (who will prob tell me I need to recieve and log anyway)but we shall see.

    Do you know if that requirement (of an FFL having to ship) is a USPS requirement or ATF requirement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm-man View Post
    Send me a PM. I am not convinced I need to log it. I am not recieving it, just using my license to fullfill the USPS requirement not the ATF requirement. I would say we ship it from you to the FFL and ill go down with a copy of my license to the USPS. If they require my company name on the box then yes I'll log it.

    Waiting to hear from my ATF laison, (who will prob tell me I need to recieve and log anyway)but we shall see.

    Do you know if that requirement (of an FFL having to ship) is a USPS requirement or ATF requirement?
    I believe it must be a USPS requirement, as you can use private carriers without an FFL. If it were an ATF requirement, it would apply to all shipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm-man View Post
    Waiting to hear from my ATF laison, (who will prob tell me I need to recieve and log anyway)but we shall see.
    You can just bet that the BATF person that you contact will advise you that if you are going to be involved like this, you as a FFL holder WILL need to log it in and log it out to the receiving FFL person. I hope the response you receive will be posted so we can all learn what "they" want/expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm-man View Post
    As a C&R dealer do you have to maintain a logbook?
    YES, kinda similar to the book maintained by reguar 01 FFLs!!

    And, actually a C&R holder is NOT considered a "dealer".

    I sure do not want to appear to be a "know it all" as I just do NOT want to see any fellow CO AR15 Shooters members get in trouble with the BATF people because of some infraction of one of their requirements/laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBob View Post
    You can just bet that the BATF person that you contact will advise you that if you are going to be involved like this, you as a FFL holder WILL need to log it in and log it out to the receiving FFL person. I hope the response you receive will be posted so we can all learn what "they" want/expect.
    Sure, i'll post it.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBob View Post
    YES, kinda similar to the book maintained by reguar 01 FFLs!!

    And, actually a C&R holder is NOT considered a "dealer".

    I sure do not want to appear to be a "know it all" as I just do NOT want to see any fellow CO AR15 Shooters members get in trouble with the BATF people because of some infraction of one of their requirements/laws.
    Since you know- Why not post the regs that cover this? Like I said, I don't have time; so if you know, please feel free to post em up. Also, not going to get into any trouble- I follow the rules. But I also don't just make shit up, for the shear fact of making more regulations than exist. Like I said, I have a call into the ATF for clear direction because- "i'm not a know it all" like you! Just playing Blaster.....

    Thanks,
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    How much time are you going to waste to try to save a couple $$. You could have already shipped it and be spending your time working on something else that will make you money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm-man View Post
    I also don't just make shit up, for the shear fact of making more regulations than exist. Like I said, I have a call into the ATF for clear direction because- "i'm not a know it all" like you! Just playing Blaster.....

    Thanks,
    Well, I'll learn to keep my bull shit thoughts to myself from now on. I didn't intend to make it appear that I was attempting to make up more regulations than exist. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBob View Post
    Well, I'll learn to keep my bull shit thoughts to myself from now on. I didn't intend to make it appear that I was attempting to make up more regulations than exist. Sorry.
    Not what I was saying..... mis-interpreted my friend . .. Hope you don't think I was implying you were. Think you were just discussing the situation and wanting to know and also offering your $.02.

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    Blaster- your right! Have to R&D it..... Per ATF

    I don't really have the time to do it meow, hence why I stopped doing transfers.

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