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    Quote Originally Posted by airborneranger View Post
    In the Army, we call that a "Barracks Lawyer". He claims to knows everything about everything, but in the end only knows jack and shit. I guess all of that knowledge comes from osmosis because last time I checked he was neither a cop or a lawyer.

    Please call your DA or your detective for their "opinion" on the situation. Then, I will call my defense attorney and post his opinion. In the end, everyone will be arguing and no one is going to call you sir.
    it doesn't really matter what your defense attorney says. Hell, it doesn't even matter what the DA or Detective says. All that matters is what a judge and jury say. And I can say with almost 100% certainty that if you walked into the house and shot the two unarmed people in the house you would be going to jail for a long long time.

    And, you don't know anything about me. Don't pretend like you do. It's rude.
    Quote Originally Posted by spqrzilla View Post
    airborneranger, yep. The thing is, JM ver 2.0 almost has a point but not in the OP's situation. You have to add "facts" to the scenario to end up to where someone would have gone beyond legitimate self-defense either within or without 704.5. There are certainly scenarios similar to OP's where I'd expect one to be charged if they turned into shoots. But just as easily small variations in the scenario that are perfectly good shoots within Colorado law.

    JM ver 2.0 instead wants to make overbroad generalizations that are rightfully drawing hooting responses.
    Even if you were legally justified in shooting the two people in the OP, you'd still spend a good chunk of time defending yourself in court. And then, you would forever be seen as the guy who had to "teach them a lesson."

    If you want to go through all that just because you think you're right... Knock yourself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    That's what I was thinking... But it's YOUR house! So let's all go Chicago style and flip things around- now those law breaking intruders are victims forced to feed upon the aid of others, and us honest, gun owning folk that just want to live safely need to be prosecuted for going into our own homes and may encounter these "victims."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...returned-fire/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=474025&in_page_id=1770

    http://whostheass.com/2012/09/true-story-burglar-falls-through-a-roof-and-sues/



    Who's the victim now?

    This is the problem with all of you saying to shoot the guys...


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    JM, you need to relax... First off you're making these reaching statements- no one goes into their house and just shoots people. Stop reaching for straws, no one said just shooting intruders. If it's justified, regardless of the situation, then the homeowner/occupant should be good. Either way, if you use deadly force against a threat you should expect to have to defend yourself, that just goes with the territory.
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    I still love the stories where grandma shoots punks...you can't take that from me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post
    And, you don't know anything about me. Don't pretend like you do. It's rude.
    That is true, I have to agree with you on that.

    Please continue providing us with your insightful comments concerning this matter because I need some humor when I wake up tomorrow.

    Now, I will stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...returned-fire/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=474025&in_page_id=1770

    http://whostheass.com/2012/09/true-story-burglar-falls-through-a-roof-and-sues/



    Who's the victim now?

    This is the problem with all of you saying to shoot the guys...


    And before you just my ass about these... This is a joke...


    I've had to sit and listen to this dude's sob story for the last two years...

    You haven't heard anything until you've heard it straight from the guy's mouth...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1211230.html

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    "An individual is only entiteld to one's rights as long as one respects the rights of others."...R.F.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waxthis View Post
    I'm beginning to feel that way too... Only bright side is I've added about 30 posts to my post count... Gotta make up for the vacation some how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...returned-fire/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=474025&in_page_id=1770

    http://whostheass.com/2012/09/true-story-burglar-falls-through-a-roof-and-sues/



    Who's the victim now?

    This is the problem with all of you saying to shoot the guys...

    Couple of points. None of those links have anything to do with Colorado or 18-1-704.5. The other thing is no one is saying they'd just rush in and shoot someone. That's something you and brutal have made up in a lame attempt to support your incorrect position. You've made the assertion that a person entering his own home knowing an intruder is inside is some sort of violation of some law. That simply isn't the case.

    You even have an attorney here telling you you're incorrect.

    The "Make My Day" law is called a "Castle Doctrine" law for a reason. In simple terms it falls under a legal doctrine that says a man's home is his castle and he can do whatever is necessary to defend it...whether he's inside when the invasion occurs or arrives home and discovers it. You've provided absolutely ZERO proof other than your "opinion" to substantiate your claims. Please explain the legal doctrine you're using to come up with this ridiculous assertion. Because you and brutal are starting to look pretty silly.
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