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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnhack View Post
    The media friggen loved Tebow as long as he was actually playing. You couldn't get away from him and his holy-rolling John-boy-isms.
    No they didn't. They mocked him from day one for being devout, even when he was playing, even when he won games. Sometimes they were honest and mocked him for his faith, other times they professed other reasons to mock him. Coverage of him was frequently about his faith (not by his choice) rather than his wins or his stats -- unless there was a loss they could point to and claim he lacked talent and shouldn't be in the league. I'm not a fan of his but the disparate and biased coverage was blatant.

    I won't speak for 3beansalad but IMO, yeah, a proclivity for bad behavior SHOULD be something the NFL/NBA/MLB/etc. should take into consideration when hiring. Hiring bad characters can affect the entire team. You could be the best _____________ on the planet and I wouldn't want to hire you if you had a history of violent behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    No they didn't. They mocked him from day one for being devout, even when he was playing, even when he won games. Sometimes they were honest and mocked him for his faith, other times they professed other reasons to mock him. Coverage of him was frequently about his faith (not by his choice) rather than his wins or his stats -- unless there was a loss they could point to and claim he lacked talent and shouldn't be in the league. I'm not a fan of his but the disparate and biased coverage was blatant.

    I won't speak for 3beansalad but IMO, yeah, a proclivity for bad behavior SHOULD be something the NFL/NBA/MLB/etc. should take into consideration when hiring. Hiring bad characters can affect the entire team. You could be the best _____________ on the planet and I wouldn't want to hire you if you had a history of violent behavior.
    THIS! Mtnhack, not sure, but would you rather have a habitual criminal who's really good at his job working for you, or a guy who will never be in trouble that's good at his job, but not quite as good as the criminal? I'd much rather have the one who won't give me legal headache later on down the road.
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    He tried to Ray Lewis that...

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    Hernandez will walk, regardless of his guilt. He's is rich, famous and most importantly, still useful to the NFL. Just ask Ray Lewis how that works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    No they didn't. They mocked him from day one for being devout, even when he was playing, even when he won games. Sometimes they were honest and mocked him for his faith, other times they professed other reasons to mock him. Coverage of him was frequently about his faith (not by his choice) rather than his wins or his stats -- unless there was a loss they could point to and claim he lacked talent and shouldn't be in the league. I'm not a fan of his but the disparate and biased coverage was blatant. I won't speak for 3beansalad but IMO, yeah, a proclivity for bad behavior SHOULD be something the NFL/NBA/MLB/etc. should take into consideration when hiring. Hiring bad characters can affect the entire team. You could be the best _____________ on the planet and I wouldn't want to hire you if you had a history of violent behavior.
    How do you mock someone for their faith when all they did was replay his post-game interviews? Mocking is what SNL did, not what the news did.
    The coverage regarding his faith was because his play was not newsworthy outside of about 4 or 5 miraculous comebacks following terminable performances in the previous 3+ quarters, yet he was arguably one of the top 5 most popular NFL athletes 2 seasons ago. His devout proclamations were what was news and of interest to most of his fans. This was not his choice? He chose to open every statement with something about jesus and his lord and savior. His choice was to try to use every possible minute of his fame to promote his beliefs. What should he have expected given those actions? People don't talk like that in their everyday, blue and white collar jobs.
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    "Well, I couldn't have done it without the guidance of my lord and savior, Jesus Christ. With his trust and love, I am sure my sales will excel next quarter. Thank you.



    Yes, character should be considered and I was ecstatic when the Broncos went with Demarius Thomas over Dez Bryant based on Bryant's troubled past. It seems now that it was a decent decision given that Bryant got into so much bs that Dallas made Bryant pay for a nanny to hold his hand whenever he was away from the facilities. Some people/players are beyond help and should not get chance after chance, but to say to a kid of 22 that any mistake he made when he was in college should proclude him from a chance at a NFL carreer seems short sighted to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    THIS! Mtnhack, not sure, but would you rather have a habitual criminal who's really good at his job working for you, or a guy who will never be in trouble that's good at his job, but not quite as good as the criminal? I'd much rather have the one who won't give me legal headache later on down the road.
    Fair enough. But would you rather have someone who gets in a little bit of hell-raising at home every once in a while and was the best at his job, or someone who was completely inept and incapable of doing what you hired him for, but a really great guy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnhack View Post
    Fair enough. But would you rather have someone who gets in a little bit of hell-raising at home every once in a while and was the best at his job, or someone who was completely inept and incapable of doing what you hired him for, but a really great guy?
    Are we still talking about Tebow? Because last time I checked we went to the playoffs with him as QB, so I don't think he was completely inept.
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    Why does every football thread have to turn into a Tebow discussion? We have seen time and again he isn't an NFL quality quarterback - thats why the Pats picked him up to play Tight End (perhaps to replace Hernandez).

    DA says Hernandez shot Llyod 3 times right after he got out of the car then twice in the chest after he was on the ground.
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    Character matters.
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    Just another prima donna thug.
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