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Originally Posted by KevDen2005
I don;t see a bit of "cop bashing" going on.
everyone to this point has been rather polite about it and voiced our opinion that wht is shown in the video is not right. not only is it shown it's admitted by the sheriff of the department doing it that that is how they do it.
how is that bashing ?
Not really, you admitted to not watching the evidence given to you yet you still respond. They get a search warrant from an on call judge strap your ass to a table and take your blood. How did SCOTUS make it really really hard to take your blood?
The bashing just hasn't started yet, but like all of these threads, that is exactly where it's going. Most on here watch too many movies and think they have a clue with what cops do. How about going to a DUI crash where some piece of crap crashed into three cars completely destroying them, injuring several and killing one. That person has had numerous DUI's and no jail time. Doesn't have a license. And now we will be required to get a warrant for the blood draw which won't be less than two hours which the state requires for a test to be completed. How about the numerous times that DUI's kick or punch me or nearly run over a police officer or fire fighter. You guys see one video and think that's how it goes. Sometimes people get strapped down who are non compliant. It's called custody. Don't drink and drive and it won't happen to you.
At the end of the day, when you or a family member is seriously injured by a DUI driver and you lose in court you will wonder what that DUI driver got away with it.
Well for those of us that have had to write warrants on probable cause know that it's not just a phone call that get's a warrant. The news is always right you know. I have said it so many times on this site. Everyone on here makes it a point to state when the news is wrong, which is nearly every time there is something mentioned of the news, EXCEPT when it shows the police doing what you think is a violation to your rights. If you kill someone while DUI, we can take your blood and it makes you a murderer, think about that.
We are talking about THIS News Report / Video
In it ( have you watched it yet?) The Sheriff of Douglas County GA says they strap down ( and use a head lock type control) EVERY subject who has has the warrant issued. Compliant or not.
Edit:
Just to add another sheriff in GA who has MORE DUI arrests does not do the tie down and control method on compliant subjects.
Last edited by clublights; 07-01-2013 at 01:03.
I'm aware that you are talking about THIS video. I'm aware that they are strapping every person down in that jurisdiction.
AND...
Never mind, I'm done. Hope you're never a victim people.
Re: More disturbing signs of Amerika the Police State
And that's the thing I can't get behind.
And WHAT?
so violating the rights ( sorry I see the strap down on a complaint subject as excessive use of force) is ok cuz people die in DUI accidents?
people are killed by guns so I guess a no knock raid to make sure your guns haven't killed anybody is ok in YOUR opinion?
Ok, KevDen, I think you know (and if you do not, ask the other LEOs on the board) that I am usually the first to strike down, and I come down hard on cop bashing on this site. But I haven't seen any here, so lets not cry wolf.
Additionally, your argument is patently false. Lets swap DUI with Terrorist...
When your family member is killed by a Terrorist, you will wonder why we aren't recording more phone calls, emails and text messages to keep them from getting away with it. None of us like these NSA taps, etc.
Additionally, the facts say that anyone who refuses to blow gets a warrant for a forcible blood draw. It says NOTHING about probable cause or reasonable suspicion. Shouldn't there at least be probable cause to get the warrant (as is required in all other warrants)? You limit it to people who are swerving, wreak of alcohol, blow a red light, you get me to agree a bunch more. But simply refusing a search (breathalyzer) is not probable cause OR reasonable suspicion, and this has been held up repeatedly at the highest levels of courts.
Just because it is a DUI and people lose family members to DUIs doesn't mean that due process and proper procedure should be followed all the same. In fact, I think that it is very concerning that you feel that a particular crime may warrant special treatment outside the limits of due process while others do not.
ETA, in your response to "I hope you are never a victim people"
I would strongly prefer to be a victim than a subject.
Last edited by J; 07-01-2013 at 01:14.
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And I need to say sorry to the Sheriff of Douglas County GA....
it' Gwinnett County GA that is doing the strap down .
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